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    Digiex Exclusive: Premade Windows 98 Virtual Machine for use with older games





    A virtual machine can be used to run another OS on your current OS (e.g. run Windows 98 on your Windows XP system). Attached is Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 and a Windows 98 Virtual Machine premade ready to use!

    You can use this image to run games which may not work on your modern computer without effecting your current operating system.


    Installation and Setup:

    Follow each step to complete the installation of your VirtualPC.

    First download Microsoft Virtual PC, either the 32bit or 64bit version:
    Download Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 - 32 bit version
    Download Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 - 64 bit version

    Also download the Windows 98 Virtual Machine and unpack it anywhere you like:

    Download Windows 98 Virtual Machine

    After downloading, run the setup program and install Virtual PC. After installing, run Virtual PC and you should automatically get to the New Virtual Machine Wizard. Keep clicking next until you get to this screen:



    Click the Add an existing virtual machine button like on the screenshot above. Click Next and you will be able to select the Virtual Machine you want to add. Click Browse, go to the location in which you unpacked the Windows 98 Virtual Machine and open it. Again, click next and you will get to the following screen:



    Uncheck the When I click Finish, open Settings button, as it is not necessary for it to be opened. Click Finish and you will end up in the Virtual PC Console:



    You can now click on the Windows 98 machine and the click the Start button. Windows 98 will now boot in a window. You can go to Full Screen mode by pressing the right ALT button and ENTER at the same time, or by clicking Action and then clicking Full-Screen Mode if you like. Once Windows 98 has booted you will get this window:



    Simply click the OK button and you will get to the desktop. As you can see, DOSBox 0.72 is also installed. It is already set up do you'll have no problem trying to mount your drives. For the CD drive you can add your own CD drive, if it doesn't work already, by clicking CD and then click Use Physical Drive D: (or E: or whatever you use as your DVD drive). You can also use an ISO or another CD image, by clicking Capture ISO image... in the CD menu. To remove the image, click Release "*name of image*" in the CD menu.

    If you want to copy files from your computer to you Virtual Machine, you can simply drag them from any folder onto your Virtual Machine and they will get copied there.

    Hopefully it all works for you. If not, be sure to ask questions as we will be happy to help you out! Enjoy!


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    Thanks very much for this! I can finally play all my old games again! I do have a question though, the Display Adapter for this virtual machine is an S3 card of some sort with 4MB of VRAM. Will this limit the performance of the games that can be played on this machine? Thanks again!


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    It will do for the more demanding 3d games, but it should be fine for a lot of older games such as red alert.

    That can’t really be changed as it’s just what Virtual PC emulates.
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    Games that require more should be able to run on your Vista/XP system anyway, some by using DOSBox if that really has to be. However, the 'real' DOS appears to work much smoother which is why I'm starting to love VirtualPC. Also, you can now finally try WindowsME without destroying your system!
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    Awesome!
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    Thank you for providing the MS PC Virtual Machine and the Windows 98 "Appliance" AND the excellent step by step instructions. Everything went well and I have it up and running. I do have a couple of questions if I might.
    1. I would like to increase the memory size a bit. How would I go about that?
    2. I also need USB Port access. I know that was a bit more iffy in 98 than in XP. Can I do this or would I be better off to find an XP "Appliance"?
    3. I also need to have a print but I believe all I need to do for that is to simple install it under the Windows 98 VM, correct?
    Thanks again for helping me out. I had spend hours looking for something like this. I need to run an old CAD application that is far to expensive to upgrade. It is running in the Windows 98 VM.
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    To add more memory click the settings button here:



    You can now add more ram:



    I believe on Windows Virtual PC you can share USB ports, however that only works on Windows 7 and your processor needs to support Intel Virtualization Technology or AMD-V, my processor doesn’t but if yours does it should be exactly what your after.

    See here: Windows Virtual PC: Download

    As for printers share it on the network then find it in network places on Windows 98 and install the drivers for it under the VM (thats if they exist for Windows 98)
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    I happen to have a Windows 98 VMware image I've been using, would anyone like me to upload that? VMware performs a little better and works with some stuff Virtual PC doesn't but also doesn't work with some stuff it does.


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    great stuff, but the 64 bit doesnt seem to work or is corrupt. any suggestions on what to do or where i can get a working 64 bit version?

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    You need to be running a 64bit version of Windows to make any use of the 64bit .exe, it will not work on a 32bit version of windows.
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    Hi Assassin,

    Thx for the downloads. I have some mathematical software that I need to run in Windows98, however I cannot transfer the files into your Windows 98 Virtual Machine. I would appreciate any help you can offer.

    My System:

    I have a new computer: Core i5, Win 7, 64-bit. It has a Blu-ray burner and multiple USB ports. I have a cable internet connection.

    I have downloaded and installed Virtual PC and Windows XP from Microsoft.

    I have downloaded and installed Windows 98 Virtual Machine (W98VM) from Digiex.

    My problem: I cannot add (copy, transfer) any files to W98VM.

    1. The drag and drop function doesn't work from Win 7 to W98VM, or vice versa. (The XP mode can see and read all my Win 7 files.)

    2. I cannot connect to the internet from W98VM (because I have a cable connection?).

    3. The W98VM doesn't recognize a CD inserted in the blu-ray drive. (The XP mode does recognize and read the CD.)

    4. The W98VM cannot even see the USB drives, let alone any USB sticks I put in them. (The XP mode does recognize and read the USB sticks.)

    If I am in "W98VM - Windows Virtual PC" and I click "Tools | Upgrade Integration Components", I get the error message "The D:\ SETUP.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.".

    I would appreciate any help you or anyone can offer.

    Thx, Soupman55

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    Weird, I also have Windows 7 and dragging and dropping works for me. It's also strange you can't connect to the internet because that also works fine for me (also have a cable connection). I don't really understand the last part but I think the setup.exe doesn't work under Windows 98 and needs XP or higher. Why exactly can't you drag and drop? Do you get an error or...? Also what's the error when you try to open the internet? Did you try clicking the digiex shortcut on the desktop? Does that work?

    Maybe you should try reinstalling the whole virtual drive software and the virtual drive itself and try again.

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    My basic situation is identical to this:

    "A number of people have reported that when they try to install Virtual PC 2007 they receive a compatibility warning ... What you need to know is that you will only receive this warning if you have installed Windows Virtual PC. If you get this, and you want to use Virtual PC 2007 instead of Windows Virtual PC, you will need to uninstall Windows Virtual PC."
    Virtual PC Guy's WebLog : Running Virtual PC 2007 on Windows 7

    So the "Virtual PC Guy" is suggesting that I will have to unistall my Windows VPC in order to get VPC 2007 to run.

    In the comments section of the Virtual PC Guy's Blog there is a link to an alternative suggestion:
    Windows Virtual PC and the Microsoft Device Emulator - Brian's Blog - BrianPeek.com

    I could not get this suggestion to work. So it looks like I will have to work out which jobs I need Windows XP and Windows 98 for, and then install only Windows VPC and VPC 2007, respectively, (having first uninstalled the other).

    I assume that you haven't installed Windows VPC and Windows XP mode and this is why you aren't having these problems(?).

    I am open to any further comments and suggestions.

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    amost there - i loaded riven on the virtual pc, and sound comes from monitor speakers during riven set=up, but not while playing. Any help?


    Thx,wtrgzr

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    Thumbs up Virtual Machine

    Quote Originally Posted by Titcher View Post
    I happen to have a Windows 98 VMware image I've been using, would anyone like me to upload that? VMware performs a little better and works with some stuff Virtual PC doesn't but also doesn't work with some stuff it does.
    I would like the vmware if it works better, but I don't know anything about either of these.

    I have a couple of old games and programs that won't work on the Vista machine but do on the xp. I am trying to consolidate everything to one so I can get rid of something to make some more space in my office.
    Thanks
    Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by soupman55 View Post
    I assume that you haven't installed Windows VPC and Windows XP mode and this is why you aren't having these problems(?).

    I am open to any further comments and suggestions.
    This was created before Windows VPC even existed, I can confirm everything works perfectly on Windows 7 with Virtual PC 2007 without Windows Virtual PC installed.

    Here is an example of the network settings I have in an XP VM, the network adapter on the Virtual PC is set to the one my PC uses for its internet access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSST8DOG View Post
    I have a couple of old games and programs that won't work on the Vista machine but do on the xp. I am trying to consolidate everything to one so I can get rid of something to make some more space in my office.
    Thanks
    Lee
    Have a look at Windows XP Mode, it works with Windows Virtual PC and allows applications running in the virtual machine to appear on your Windows 7 dektop just like they were running on Windows 7.

    For every day use that might be a lot better for you.

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx
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    Thanks for this, made quick work of getting W98 VM installed.

    Couple things I keep observing though, the VM will not start or restart on the first attempt, I go through a process of Turn Off, Turn On, Scan Disk, then it works.

    Also, Diablo 2 and Expansion installed, will not launch. Vid Test suggests the direct draw 2d setting, which is fine for this. Anyone tried this game under this VM?

    Here's my system: Windows 7 64 bit, AMD Phenom II, 4GB RAM, 2x640GB WD mirror.

    Installed latest host W VPC (not VPC 2007), used provided Win98 archive.

    appreciate it

    PS: Determined that launching D2 was something related to detecting the CD drive, once I installed IE6, and the D2 patches, which now D2 does not require Play CD in drive, it launched fine. However, game runs with strange artifacts popping up disappearing on screen, and then the game crashed with some vmsound blue screen error. My configuration with Windows VPC just does not seem stable at all. Will try to remove the Integration pieces as that is probably what is not supported when using Win 98 as WVPC is only supported with XP and up.
    Last edited by mikeram1971; 02-03-10 at 21:49. Reason: Problem partially resolved...

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    Unhappy Help please

    The virtual pc works great but when I start a game it says "A required .DLL file, DINPUT8.DLL, was not found."
    When i copy the windows vista dll file in the virutal pc it doesnt work either please help

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    Try installing Direct X 8.1 - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

    Im not sure if its installed or not in this virtual machine.
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    Hello! I've been looking all over for one of these, thanks for posting it!

    I have an issue though. I got this to play an old game I have on CD. It mounted fine, and when I went to double click the Setup.exe, it gave me an error: "Setup.exe is not a valid Win32 application".

    I have Vista 64bit, and I had tried installing the game on there first, but it didn't like any of the compatibility modes. =(

    This game used to work perfectly for me on Windows 2000 and ME, despite being from 1995, so I have no idea what's up. Any advice?

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    Thank you for the upload i am using Vmware!

    Witch Display driver did you use in your VM i have only been able to get 2-3mb of vram i want atleast 4 mb

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    I appreciate this but the 64 bit version isn't unpacking. I get the following error:
    Extracting Windows 98.vmc OK
    Extracting Windows 98 Hard Disk.vhd Error: CRC mismatch in file "Windows 98 Hard Disk.vhd" in the archive "C:\Downloads\VM\win98.rar"

    When unpacking setup64.rar I get the message:
    Extracting setup64.exe Error: CRC mismatch in file "setup64.exe" in the archive "C:\Downloads\VM\setup64.rar"
    But it appears to have unpacked successfully, however when I try to run the executable I get an error message that it's a 16-bit program which is incompatible with the 64-bit OS.

    I'm running Windows 7 Home 64 bit and extracting using Winzip 14.0 Pro.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated as my only alternative is to try to find a functional disk with Win98 and trying to revive my old pentium pro.

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    Hi, I got this VHD to work on Virtual PC, but with a small problem. Whenever I try to type a certain few keys, they come up as other random numbers and such. Those keys being "i, j, k, l, m, o, p, and u". Any way to fix this?

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    Default Problem with the CD-ROM...

    @lolitsflip: That just sounds like you have your Num Lock on...are you using a laptop where all those keys have backup number functions when Num Lock is activated?

    I am having a problem getting my physical CD drive to mesh with the virtual one. I installed Lego Creator just fine by "Use Physical Drive E:" but now when I try to run the program (with the disc in the drive, detected as Creator (D in the virtual My Computer) it says that the disc is not in the drive. Any thoughts on silly things I am overlooking?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entaru View Post
    The virtual pc works great but when I start a game it says "A required .DLL file, DINPUT8.DLL, was not found."
    When i copy the windows vista dll file in the virutal pc it doesnt work either please help
    Have you an answer to your problem? I have the same problem

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    Hello

    First time here

    Was wondering if by installing Windows 98 Virtual, there is any way to get a screen resolution of 640 x 480 if your computer doesn't go that low.

    Trying to get a full screen on an older game that needs 640 x 480.

    I guess I'm kind of doubting it, but wondered if there is any way to get an older game to go full screen if it needs 640 x 480.

    Thanks

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    Hey, thanks for making this! However, I have a problem with it. When installing the Virtual PC, a message comes up saying that it's not compatible with my PC and to check the help section. Regardless, I tried installing everything and it works. Everything works fine, except that the games I boot now have really fuzzy sound. It sounds like half the music file is missing when I play games on the virtual windows 98... I checked the help file, but saw nothing. I am running Windows XP. Can you help?

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    Hey Thanks for the set up intsructions.

    My issue is that when i press start a pop up window appears saying that the virtual disk could no be located and that i need to specify a new virtual hard disk.


    I followed all of your instruction up to this point and everthing seems to have worked okay.

    Can you help?

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    I'm having the same problem as Jareth43. Won't start Windows 98 Virtual PC. When I installed I was installing Virtual PC 2007 a pop-up window came up saying that my OS was not compatible, but everything seemed to install fine. I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium

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    Hey I saw in an early post you showing how to change the ram allocation for the VM on windows 98, although for me the bar is greyed out as well as the field imput. I'm running it as an administrator (i think) so I don't know why I cannot change this. I definitely need to increase it though, as it keeps crashing when I open up any major applications. Any advise would be appreciated...

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    Btw, I should probably say thanks for the great download worked easy peasy mac 'n cheesy, and has saved me a lot of time getting it all organized myself, not to mention saved me the trouble of finding a bazillion patches, and updates nonsuch for old games in the longrun of not having a VM (and eliminated my need for dosbox almost entirely) Thanks again ^_^

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    Default Error with the Win98.rar

    When I try to extract the file I get a error that says:

    CRC failed in Windows 98 Hard disk.vhd the file is corrupt

    Anyone else run into this issue or know how to fix it?

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    Re download the file, it likely did not finish downloading 100% or got corrupted doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emeraldfox View Post
    Hello! I've been looking all over for one of these, thanks for posting it!

    I have an issue though. I got this to play an old game I have on CD. It mounted fine, and when I went to double click the Setup.exe, it gave me an error: "Setup.exe is not a valid Win32 application".

    I have Vista 64bit, and I had tried installing the game on there first, but it didn't like any of the compatibility modes. =(

    This game used to work perfectly for me on Windows 2000 and ME, despite being from 1995, so I have no idea what's up. Any advice?
    Some old games used a 16bit installer that will simply not work under 64 bit version of windows

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    I got the VM up and running and the reason for doing this was to play Master of Orion. However after put the files for the game in the proper directory which should replace the install step I believe . . . when I try to run the game it just freezes up the VM and I have to reset it. I got it working last night but now no dice. I tired to bring it up in dosbox but now bringing up dosbox seems to crash the vm. I tired clicking on the exe file from in windows and tried to key it in from dos and I get the same result. When I try to f8 the start up and go straight to a command prompt and start it from there I get an error saying you need 1024k of expanded memory. I tired to adjust the memory of the vm as shown above but I don't have enough ram available for the vm.

    Any helpful thoughts and solutions would be much appreciated.

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    helppp!!!
    i've just installed this brilliant creation after trying to play silver on my xp for days, downloading all sorts of stuff, and the game runs fine in the virtual pc but the mouse calibration's completely off so you can't click on anything! I think it might be to do with live resolution switching being disabled, is there a workaround for this? I can't find anything anywhere.
    Thank you so much

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    hey, i just made an account for this, all because i need to get d3d working on win98SE for your virtual machine, i can get it to work thus far, however, i cant click on options(have to do some click-enter combo...bit wierd) and when i start an actual mission and its on the loading screen, it says "cannot load d3d" or something...sorry if im not specific, oh i almost forgot, i am currently running this on windows XP proffessional, however, states it is not compatible with my system, and is only compatible with 2000 and XP pro(makes no sense, right?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by asro View Post
    hey, i just made an account for this, all because i need to get d3d working on win98SE for your virtual machine, i can get it to work thus far, however, i cant click on options(have to do some click-enter combo...bit wierd) and when i start an actual mission and its on the loading screen, it says "cannot load d3d" or something...sorry if im not specific, oh i almost forgot, i am currently running this on windows XP proffessional, however, states it is not compatible with my system, and is only compatible with 2000 and XP pro(makes no sense, right?)
    Virtual PC does not really emulate a very powerful graphics card, thats likely why it doesn't work.

    VM Ware apparently has much better 3d acceleration performance, that might be something to try: 3D acceleration in virtual machines - Part 1: VMware & DirectX - Tutorial
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