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    I can't seem to find out why UT2004 doesn't work properly for me. At random times, the music hangs and my screen goves me the message No signal, and I have to reset my computer, because alt+tab, ctrl+alt+del, etc doesn't work. I had this yesterday while playing online in de Digiex server, when I just killed someone in a tank, and this morning when I tried playing Single player and the intro video started playing. I also had this with Project Snowblind and Guild Wars. I never had this problem untill recently, when I had to format my HD, because it broke. After reinstalling windows I got this problem, I don't think I had it before. I updated my videocard drivers to the latest version, so that's not it. Could it be related to the breaking of my HD (which is still in my computer)? Help?


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    Do you have this problem with all games or just the ones listed?

    Your graphics card could be overheating, something to try is installing a program like Everest which will display the temperatures of various components in your pc.
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    Well I have no idea what the max temperaturs of those devices are supposed to be.

    Mainboard: 79
    CPU: 41
    CPU Core 1: 49
    CPU Core 2: 51
    CPU Core 3: 45
    CPU Core 4: 45
    HDD1: 38
    HDD2: 41
    Videocard: 50

    Are any of them too high?


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    is that in C of F ? if C your mainboard is very very hot and i suggest turning your computer off now as everything is going to break with shorting an things blowing from the heat.it is very dangerous if it is in C and could be why your hard drive failed. mine is running at 40C and i consider that rather warm.

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    It might also explain why your HD broke, can you get extra ventilation/fans in your pc to help ?

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    I just opened up my PC to see if it was hot. It was kind of hot, but the mainboard/heatsinks/videocard all had about the same temperature and I think it's weird my GPU temperature when tested was so low when it feel just the same. I powered on my computer now still opened up so it could get ventilated a little and had it off for a while, but it still says 79 degrees (C btw). After running another program I noticed it was the Auxiliary temperature that's so high, the the board itself apparently, but I have no idea what this is. Can anyone help me please?



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    the Aux temperature is a default value of a probe so basically the 79c so there isnt any problem because the probe doesn't exist .

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    I was getting worried for a min then when you listed your motherboard temp.

    Are the temps you listed when the pc is idle or right after you have been playing a game?

    With Everest open and Si Sandra if you want to monitor your motherboard temp load UT 2004 up and play it in a window (alt + enter will switch it to window mode) now as you play keep an eye on the temps and see if anything starts to overheat.

    If your pc crashes and the temps haven’t really changed we can rule that out.

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    Well I had to format my C drive and reinstall everything again yesterday night, since I had a virus. I'll see if UT2004 works now a little later. Thanks for seperating btw, I was thinking of doing that myself.


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    I was going to suggest what resolutions your monitor could handle and what resolution you had in game but seeing as you were able to play a few games and then it'd suddenly turn off I'd imagine it could be a fault with your graphics card. Can't really see how a faulty HDD could cause such a fault as this but let us know if you need help still.
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    I had a similar problem with an ATi Radeon x1900 or something like that. Either way it was caused by my graphics card overheating. The Aux temp could be something like Gfx Card CPU (GPU) heat or something else.

    Either way check the fan is still spinning and not stuck with dust.
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    Ok, after reinstalling everything last night and having used the computer today, it's now running slow again. Windows takes incredibly long to load (it loads fine at a decent speed untill the Windows logo shows), when trying to watch a movie it pauses from time to time as if it was loading...

    Could it be my hard drive is really broken and I need to replace it? I'm really starting to wonder what's wrong here. Also why my HD broke the first time. Looking at the temperatures, they're not overheating (39 and 37 degrees). I don't want to buy a new HD and have that break because my computer is overheating or whatever. I'm running a SMART test on my C drive now. I tried the short test which should take about 2 minutes, but it's been over 10 minutes already. Suggestions on what I can do to see what's the problem?

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    What did the results of the smart test tell you?

    I wouldn’t say your computer is overheating from the temps you posted up, its running slightly warmer than mine but I wouldn’t really say any of your temps are cause for concern.

    Do you have an old hard drive? Even if it’s only like 10gigs that’s enough to install XP on it and see how it works then. If the smart test didn’t say anything it’s the easiest way to rule the hard drive out.

    You probably have a warranty on your hard drive with the manufacturer anyway if it turns out to be that so you could get a free replacement.

    Edit – what were your temps when playing a game in a window for a while and keeping an eye on them?
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    The SMART test never finished. I tried running it on the other drive and that did finish in 2 minutes so I knew enough by then. This morning I went and bought a new 500GB HDD and installed it, and also took out my videocard, opened it up and cleared that of any dust and also cleared the rest of my computer from dust. Everything seems to be working fine again now. I tried running UT2004 and played for a bit and no crashes yet. Let's hope the problem is solved now..

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    Glad everything is looking ok, hope to see you in the UT Server sometime
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    Good news everyone! The problem is still here!

    A few days ago I decided to install Guild Wars, and after installing I was just walking around for a few seconds (while I had a video playing in the background which kept running for some reason) and again it happened. Also just now, I was playing Team Fortress 2 with my own music in the background and it happened again, but the music kept playing.. I can't alt+tab back to windows or anything, I have to press the reset button... This is very frustrating, because I can't really play any game online like this because I'm afraid this will happen. Especially in Guild Wars, I'd just abandon my party like that and I can't finish any missions or whatever.. So, here we are again... Any suggestions?

    Edit: I read somewhere on the big interwerbs it might be my PSU. It's a 420 watt powering 2 500GB SATA HDs, the mainboard, a DVD drive and my GeForce 9600GT. Could it all be too much for it?

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    I think my Dads Geforce 9600 GT said it required a minimum of 350w to run it but I got him a 550w PSU just in case. Usually I find that having a below minimum spec PSU causes some devices to stop working (they don't show up in device manager as not enough power is going to them to actually be used). If it's not your graphics card or your monitor and you have access to a better PSU try it. Otherwise I'm stumped
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    I'm not sure if it's not my graphics card or monitor actually, but my gfx card's temperature is fine, I opened it up and cleared the dust from everywhere... And I don't see how my monitor could be the problem since it works fine, it just randomely shuts down when I play some games.. It's obviously hardware related, since formatting and even getting a new HD didn't work.. The weird thing is I didn't always have this problem, it just started at some point.. On the internet everyone seems to blame something different as well when someone has this problem.. Some blame high temperatures, others blame the PSU, others blame the AGP.. It's obviously not something that shows up in any testing or diagnostics program.. Anyway, I'll see if I can find another PSU for now.

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    I know you idle temps are fine, but what about playing UT 2004 (or something more demanding like UT3) in a Window with Everest or some other program that can monitor temps running.

    If something is overheating when under load it could be shutting its self off to stop any damage to your hardware been done.

    Also to give you a rough idea of how much power your hardware will need checkout this Power Supply Calculator: eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5

    I used it when choosing parts for out media centre pc, I would say it’s quite accurate.
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    Well, I managed to shoot a video of what happens.. I started UT2004's Single Player mode, created a character and then this happened:

    http://users.digiex.net/assassin/SNC00038.mp4

    I got lucky pretty quickly there..
    Anyway, I'll see what else I can do..

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    I tried running Team Fortress 2 in a windows with Everest showing temperatures. CPU+cores keep around 65C and my videocard around 60C. They're the only things that increase in temperature (CPU is around 45C when idle and videocard 50C). I'm really wondering if I should bring it to a repair shop, but what are they going to do? Play games untill the error shows?

    Edit: I also did the Power Supply Calculator. I'm not sure about my CPU though, since there are 2 models, a G0 and B3. With the G0 I get 463 Watt and with the B3 I get 494 Watt. So my 420 Watt PSU doesn't seem to be sufficient (which is surprising, because I had it build by a shop and I'm guessing they would know what kind of PSU it needs). I don't have a lot of experience with this, so my question, is it possible that I would actually need 494/463 Watt? Wouldn't I have noticed it before then? And is it possible this is the cause of my problem?

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    I don’t think your temps are a problem in that case.

    I’ve had a good 500w+ PSU in my pc for a number of years now, it could be a case of the psu can just about supply enough power when your pc is idle or just doing basic tasks when surfing the net but when the system demands more power it just can’t supply it.

    It hard to be sure without swapping the PSU and trying that theory out but it would explain why the screen suddenly goes blank.

    As you got your pc from a shop I’m sure they would test a better psu out in your system, if it’s under guarantee they have to fix it, if it’s not they will make a sale if you have to buy a new psu.
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    Well, this morning I brought my computer to the workshop. They told me it should be done today or maybe tomorrow and the fact that they haven't called yet is telling me they probably don't have a clue either.

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    Lol thats the sort of thing I could fix a lot better in person, I would have the parts to just swap them out and see what works. I think the PSU is a good bet, ill be interested to see what the shop says.
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    Yeah, I think I'd be able to fix it better in person as well, since I could actually test it (and I have no idea how the shop is going to determine what's wrong without playing games all the time and seeing if it'll freeze ) but I don't have the spare hardware lying around to switch, so I could either buy a lot of new hardware untill I found the piece that's not working or get it to the shop..

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    Well I just got my computer back. They replaced the motherboard which was apparently malfunctioning. I'll go test it now and see if it works.

    Edit: No! The problem remains! Thank god I still had waranty so I didn't have to pay. Conclusion: it's not the motherboard. I found my GeForce 7900 yesterday and I'll switch to that later to see if that's causing the problem. Also, I seem to have taken the wrong processor with the PSU calculation, and apparently it's 253 (for the B3) or 245 (for the G0) so I might switch to a 300 watt PSU I have lying around to see if that works. If not... then there's really nothing left to check..

    Edit2: Switched videocard --> problem solved..

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    Your Geforce 7900 will play UT2004 perfectly If you have warranty on your old graphics card get it replaced or a refund. As of now I have a Sapphire ATI 4870 Toxic edition GFX card and have had no problems running any games on it so far (touch wood).
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    I called the shop to see if I could trade my GeForce 9600 for another one but they didn't have it in stock so I'll have to wait for that, so for now I'm using my 7900. But yes, I can finally play UT2004 now! Played it a bit this afternoon and liked it a lot. Be sure to let me know when the Digiex crew joins up for a game!

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    Woohoo I’m glad you got there in the end!

    I just randomly play, if you see me on Steam playing just message me or speak to me on MSN, im sure we can get a game going sometime.
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