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    When looking in to the whole Xbox 360 Jtagging business I soon realised people could not agree if it was safe or not to use a profile that would sign in to Xbox Live on another console on a 360 that had been Jtag hacked. Some people would simply say to be safe just keep it in your live console, others said it was fine and any entries from homebrew would be removed when you signed in to live, then just for more confusion other people would say they got profile banned for having entries for emulators on their profile… which to be honest I would expect nothing less.

    I think its common sense, if you sign on to live with achievements such as “Welcome to the world of homebrew” from a Snes emulator on your profile Microsoft are going to know something is up…

    However what if you just want to play region locked games that will never be released where your region? and have the achievements you earn on your profile to compare to your buddy’s when you are next on Xbox Live?

    As they are many different ways to boot games on a Jtagged Xbox 360 I did some testing.

    Additional information:

    The Jtagged system used in the tests is a Jasper 512 running the 12611 dashboard (Built with FbBuild 0.11)

    Ensuring the tests are fair:

    To start off I created a new profile and played a game off the original DVD to get the entry on the profile. I then took a copy of this profile so I could compare it with the profile still on the memory card after loading the game in a different way, for example using xex loader.

    The game I did the testing with was Full Auto, for each of the test I loaded the game to the main menu then quit to the dashboard and signed the profile out. After that I dumped the profile to the PC so it could be compared in a hex editor to the profile that has only been used on the original MS dashboard with the original DVD in the Xbox 360.

    Test 1 - Installing the game:

    For this test I simply installed the game using the option in the MS dashboard, the installed game was not modified in any way after that.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD.



    Test 2 – Quickboot Shortcut:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc and loaded from the hard drive with a shortcut created by Quickboot 2.1.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD.



    Test 3 – User created games on demand container:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, from these files an ISO was created, this ISO was used with ISO2GOD 1.3.0 to create a games on demand container to load the game from.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way when compared to the copy of the profile that has just loaded the game from a DVD. You can also modify the title of the game in the container and it will not change the profile in any way.



    Test 4 – Games loaded with XEX Loader:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, the game was then loaded from the homebrew application XEX loader

    Results: The profile was modified, although XEX loader doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.



    Test 5 – Games loaded with FreeStyle Dash 2.0a rev 1044:

    For this test the files were extracted from the game disc, the game was then loaded from FreeStyle Dash.

    Results: The profile was modified, although Freestyle Dash doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.



    Test 6 – Profile with XEXMenu 1.1 loaded:

    For this test i simply had a profile signed in, I then loaded XEXMenu 1.1 and signed the profile out.

    Results: When compared to a copy of the profile taken before loading XEXMenu 1.1 it can be seen the profile was modified, although XEXMenu 1.1 doesn’t change you profile in any visible way it will still add data to your profile which can likely be detected by Microsoft.



    Test 7 – Load a game with XEXMenu 1.1 then sign the profile in:

    For this test XEXMenu 1.1 was loaded up with no profile signed in, the game was then loaded and the profile was signed in as the games intro movie was playing.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way, when compared to a copy of the profile taken that had just loaded the game from the DVD the profile was identical.



    Test 8 – Load a game from the original DVD on a Jtag and a non modded console:

    For this test the profile was signed in on the MS dashboard on the Jtag and the game was allowed to load to the main menu before the profile was signed out, the profile was then transfered over to a legit 360 that is not Jtag hacked or flashed. The profile was signed in on the MS dashboard and the game was allowed to load to the main menu.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way



    Test 9 – Load an arcade game on a legit console then on a Jtag:

    For this test a new profile was created on a legit console running the 12611 dashboard, the arcade game Geometry Wars was loaded to the main menu, the profile was then signed out. This console has a licence for Geometry Wars as the game was purchased with a different profile.

    A copy of this profile was taken, the profile was then signed in on the Jtag running the 12611 dashboard. A version of Geometry Wars which has been modified to run as the full version was loaded to the main menu, the profile was then signed out.

    Results: The profile was not modified in any way



    Conclusion:

    I have completed the above tests with a few different games, and found the same results with each test.
    Games played off the DVD, installed to the hard drive or loaded from a container / Freeboot shortcut will not add any additional information to the profile that is signed in. However if a homebrew application is used to load the game such as XEX Loader, XEXMenu or Freestyle Dash modifications will be made to the profile even if they are not visible.

    You can however sign the profile out and load the game using a homebrew application such as XEX Menu, then sign the profile in when the game has loaded up and no additional data will be added to the profile.

    It would appear any application loading on the Xbox 360 will add data to the profile that is signed in, even if this application does not have achievements.

    Applications such as Freestyle dash do not appear to modify profiles that are not signed in, only the profiles that are signed in will be modified and have data added to them.

    Modified arcade games that have been unlocked to work as the full version will not add any additional data to the profile signed in.

    Finally installing additional patches to the nand, such as any included with Dashlaunch will not add any data to your profile.



    Hopefully this testing might be useful to people who want to use a Jtagged Xbox 360 to play imports from other regions and keep the profile safe for Xbox Live use.

    If you have any questions or comments feel free to reply
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    Nice idea on how to find what will modify your profile, I must admit i never really knew that homebrew without achievements still modified your profile.

    Luckily I just installed my retail games and used NXE2GOD so I didn't have to play with the disc in, I mainly use my jtag for playing region locked imports... comes in handy for system link games at lans too.

    I should be good, never had XEX menu or anything like hacked dashboards on it


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    Pretty nice nutter, do you did this Tutorial by your self?



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    Yes it was all researched by me, I had a look around on the usual Xbox hacking websites but no one really had any idea what would add data to your profile and what wouldn't so i decided I would do some testing myself.

    You should be able to repeat what I have done with any game that doesn't save to the profile as soon as it is loaded.
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    So i guess even though you did not research XEXmenu 1.1 it would still probably insert data to your live profile that could be seen by MS?

    I ask because i have a live HDD with xexmenu on it and i plug it into my jtag and play games on it then transfer it back onto my live box and the Acheivements register from any of the 100 odd games on my External hard drives


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    Wow! Nice research nutter. Congrats! I am sure this article will clear the doubts of many and be of good help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimwadey View Post
    So i guess even though you did not research XEXmenu 1.1 it would still probably insert data to your live profile that could be seen by MS?

    I ask because i have a live HDD with xexmenu on it and i plug it into my jtag and play games on it then transfer it back onto my live box and the Acheivements register from any of the 100 odd games on my External hard drives
    Yes, would appear any application loading on the Xbox 360 will add data to the profile that is signed in, even if this application does not have achievements.
    If you look at the original post again I have added a test with XEXmenu 1.1 for you, it modifies the profile just like XEX Loader.

    To safely load your games from a USB drive you could create shortcuts with Quickboot, this would allow you to launch the game from the USB drive using the official MS dashboard.

    If you keep using that profile I would be interested to know if it gets banned or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by deamon0 View Post
    Wow! Nice reacher nutter. Congrats! I am sure this article will clear the doubts of many and be of good help.
    Thanks, I hope so anyway. I read a lot of great tutorials on jtagging an Xbox 360 so if I can help a few people out in return that's great.
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    Do you know how to remove this from your profile? i used FSD2.0a to earn some dlc achivements for a game.. damn im gonna start using NXE if i wanna do this crap thanks

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    The safest thing to do would be to just delete your profile and recover it from Xbox Live, thats presuming you have not signed in since using Freestyle Dash with your profile signed in.

    I'm not really sure how to remove this data.
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    Any change with freestyle dash 1.0? 2.0 was already confirmed to change profiles as it adds the dash as a games played icon.

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    Basically all homebrew applications do, the FSD team have even said all versions add data to your profile when people started moaning about the icon in 2.0.

    Even if no achievements appear on the profile data is still added no matter what, as you can see from the test results in the first post. To be as safe as possible don't use any homebrew at all with your profile signed in and you should be fine if you are playing retail games loaded from the MS dash.
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    InsaneNutter,

    Thank you for all your efforts they are much appreciated but I have two questions.

    One is more needing a clarification and the other more a question really.

    1. I have been using Xexmenu 1.1 for some time I will continue until my profile gets banned I guess and will report back when/if it happens, my question is in theory if I used xexmenu 1.1 to load a game from an external HDD but only logged into my profile after the game had loaded, am I in danger? So what I mean is I load up xexmenu 1.1, choose a game, start the game and in the menu screen I put in my memory unit and then load up my profile, am I in the same danger?

    2. Was your Test 1 done using a legitimate non modded XBOX 360 to do the original DVD HDD install?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneNutter View Post
    The safest thing to do would be to just delete your profile and recover it from Xbox Live, thats presuming you have not signed in since using Freestyle Dash with your profile signed in.

    I'm not really sure how to remove this data.
    Thanks for replying. But here what i did..I turned on my jtag and it autoboots to Fsd2.0a.. (i was not signed into my live profile at all during this.. its set to auto sign in a BS account) i then selected a game to play.. once i was at the main menu of the game.. i signed into my LIVE profile and earned a few achievements.. once i was finished i signed out of my live profile before exiting my game.. shortly after i signed into xbox live on my LIVE profile with my retail box to update the achivements =/ So did this leave a trace of FSD2.0? I think ima start using NXE2GOD thanks for this though =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikbeni10 View Post
    InsaneNutter,

    1. I have been using Xexmenu 1.1 for some time I will continue until my profile gets banned I guess and will report back when/if it happens, my question is in theory if I used xexmenu 1.1 to load a game from an external HDD but only logged into my profile after the game had loaded, am I in danger? So what I mean is I load up xexmenu 1.1, choose a game, start the game and in the menu screen I put in my memory unit and then load up my profile, am I in the same danger?

    2. Was your Test 1 done using a legitimate non modded XBOX 360 to do the original DVD HDD install?
    1. I have just tested out what you suggest, have a look at "Test 7 – Load a game with XEXMenu 1.1 then sign the profile in" you should be fine doing that, just be careful you dont leave the profile signed in and load XEX Menu up again.

    2. No the test was done on the Jtagged system, I have done another test, "Test 8 - Load a game from the original DVD on a Jtag and a non modded console" that shows loading games from the MS dash on a Jtag is the same as loading from the MS dash on a legit console.


    Quote Originally Posted by Who me View Post
    Thanks for replying. But here what i did..I turned on my jtag and it autoboots to Fsd2.0a.. (i was not signed into my live profile at all during this.. its set to auto sign in a BS account) i then selected a game to play.. once i was at the main menu of the game.. i signed into my LIVE profile and earned a few achievements.. once i was finished i signed out of my live profile before exiting my game.. shortly after i signed into xbox live on my LIVE profile with my retail box to update the achivements =/ So did this leave a trace of FSD2.0? I think ima start using NXE2GOD thanks for this though =]
    If you are 100% sure you profile has never been signed in when Freestyle dash has been loaded up you should be fine, have a look at the newly added Test 7, "Load a game with XEXMenu 1.1 then sign the profile in".
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    So you're saying that if I make a new profile outside FSD 2.0, never log into FSD 2.0 with that profile, and I play games using NXE2GOD (or by Quickboots), I can't be banned, even if the games are copied over to my HDD and all are pirated? I don't think so... I got a JTAG, and it wasn't banned on Live!, signed out from all of my profiles, plugged my LAN cable in, and tested my connection to Live! (without HDD), and it got banned in an hour or so. I don't think this is working, but it's interesting how you tested this

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    This is about keeping your profile clean so it doesn't get banned, your thinking of console bans.

    Console ban = console banned from live, the profile can still connect to live on another console

    Profile ban = profile is banned from live, the console can still go on Xbox Live with a different profile
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    Whoops, you're right! But my profile is clean, and I won't go on Live! with it, since that would require another console.

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    Hey Nutter , maybe i should have asked first but i shared this tut with Se7ensins Website , ALL credit has gone to you .
    If this is a problem please let my Apologise in advance and let me know i will get it taken down
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    If you linked to the tutorial and didn't copy + paste it I have no problems at all with that what so ever, thats how the internet works, people linking to content that they found useful.

    You might have seen me moaning at people on Se7ensins, thats only because several members had copy + pasted tutorials I had created and either claimed at as there own or just ripped the entire thing giving me credit at the very bottom.

    The reason I don't like people copy + pasting the entire thing is because I usually update my tutorials over time so people viewing the copy + pasted version will likely never see any updates I make. Also any guests that view the content here help us generate ad revenue so we can pay the Digiex server bills each month and keep Digiex online.

    I have no problem with people linking to any content on Digiex, its great people think some of the stuff we have on here is worth linking to. The more people who link to our stuff the better as far as i'm concerned, so by all means feel free to.
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    To be honest i pasted it in , with credit before and after the article , i will change it to a link, the reason i did not link it was the possibility of all the terrible traffic that S7 gets coming over here and ruining a perfectly good forum with crap posts full of trash talk and lots of .. can you make me a patch for MW2 DooooD ???

    I will take care of it

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    All sorted , link added

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    Hey nutter can you see how much traffic has come from S7 ? the post with the link has 240 views and i wondered how many people actually clicked the link

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    57 so far, and thanks for editing your post
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    Bringing up a dead thread, but any work like this done on the new 12611 dash??

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    I would assume everything is the same as the end result is loading ANY homebrew .xex adds data to the profile signed in.

    So if a game is loaded from DVD, a Games on Demand container or a Quickboot shortcut no homebrew is been used to launch the game so no additional data is added to the profile.
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    May I make a new request if it is not too much trouble?

    Does using Dash launch (2.05) affect a profile? In the way Xexmenu 1.1 or Xexloader do?

    And if so, how about when the profile is loaded in game (on a JTAG system with Dash Launch 2.05)?

    And finally when the profile is loaded and in game to press the guide button to either exit to the NXE (12611 Freeboot) or to log out of profile (on a JTAG system with Dash Launch 2.05)?

    I know these are a lot of asks, I hope I'm not angering the Op by asking, but this thread is all kinds of win and was hoping we could keep up with the new changes also...

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    Can microsoft detect the nand modified on a gamertag ?
    I have freeboot and the patch for ap25 integrated in the nand ...

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    Hi
    sorry to resurrect an old thread, but notice you didn't cover XBLA games?
    I can run these using quickboot no worries, but I have head you can be banned as playing XBLA games is a big no-no as it's not like disc based games where you could have played them at a mates, someone on another forum mentioned something about a code assigned to the console the game is bought for!? Just wondered if this was an issue wit Live Arace games?
    Cheers

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    I have updated the guide with testing done in 12611 the dashboard (Built with FbBuild 0.11)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sikbeni10 View Post
    May I make a new request if it is not too much trouble?

    Does using Dash launch (2.05) affect a profile? In the way Xexmenu 1.1 or Xexloader do?

    And if so, how about when the profile is loaded in game (on a JTAG system with Dash Launch 2.05)?

    And finally when the profile is loaded and in game to press the guide button to either exit to the NXE (12611 Freeboot) or to log out of profile (on a JTAG system with Dash Launch 2.05)?

    I know these are a lot of asks, I hope I'm not angering the Op by asking, but this thread is all kinds of win and was hoping we could keep up with the new changes also...
    Nope you are fine to use Dashlaunch, it basically just adds / updates patches that are allready in FreeBoot, its not like running a homebrew application. Use the 360 how you normally would, use the guide / dashboard as normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkRo View Post
    Can microsoft detect the nand modified on a gamertag ?
    I have freeboot and the patch for ap25 integrated in the nand ...
    Nope, not what im aware of anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by LordBarker View Post
    Hi
    sorry to resurrect an old thread, but notice you didn't cover XBLA games?
    I can run these using quickboot no worries, but I have head you can be banned as playing XBLA games is a big no-no as it's not like disc based games where you could have played them at a mates, someone on another forum mentioned something about a code assigned to the console the game is bought for!? Just wondered if this was an issue wit Live Arace games?
    Cheers
    I have added Test 9 – Load an arcade game on a legit console then on a Jtag for you. You can use arcade games as normal. Its just like playing the game on a friends console, the profile you are playing on does not need to have a licence, that has never been the case.
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    Many thanks for the comprehensive guide and answering my questions.

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    Hi InsaneNutter,

    first GREAT work for this information ! You did what I was trying to figure out on my own but didn't have the time so a big THANK YOU !

    If I understand your information.. technically if I load my profil while i'm IN the game (ex: at the main menu) no matter how I load the game (Freestyle Dash, XEX, etc..) We should be fine.

    The only time that your profile receive new data is if you are signed in any homebrew (Freestyle dash, Xexmenu, xexloader etc...)

    Can you confirm and correct me.

    My goal is to be able to use Freestyledash as my main dashboard without auto sign in and once I load my XBLA unlocked or my 360 games from USB drive, log with my profile and play.

    Now another test that you could do in you have time
    If I quiet the game and return to Freestyle dash and still login with my profil does it add data to it. I'm using Dashlaunch to remap the Y=Return tu dashboard so that it reload Freestyle instead of MS dashboard.

    If you need more info let me know

    Thx !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp3kt3r View Post

    If I understand your information.. technically if I load my profil while i'm IN the game (ex: at the main menu) no matter how I load the game (Freestyle Dash, XEX, etc..) We should be fine.

    The only time that your profile receive new data is if you are signed in any homebrew (Freestyle dash, Xexmenu, xexloader etc...)
    Yup you got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sp3kt3r View Post
    If I quiet the game and return to Freestyle dash and still login with my profil does it add data to it.
    Yes Freestyle will still add data to your profile, having anything load when you quit the game is exactly the same as having it load when your console is powered on, or simply loading it from the NXE dash. You can not be signed on a live profile with any homebrew app / game loaded up.
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    Thx for answer 1 that work for me.. I'm used to log once i'm in the game anyways I'll continue like that.

    For answer 2... it make sense.. I should log off before quitting the games and after return to the dashboard (FSD2.x).

    if I would return to Microsoft dashboard I could stay login.

    I think I might have by accident return to the freestyle dash without login off.. but so far i'm not bad. hopefully nothing will happen to my profile.. but i'm sure it's less dangerous than having fake achievement like Snes emulator.
    but I won't risk it anyways.

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    I was thinking about something.. what if microsoft use the gamerscore list to ban the profile.. ex: they notice you have over 5000 point in gamerscore just with xbox live arcade games and none of the game have been bought by you.. could they ban you ?

    I know that technically I Could have play those game at a friend who own those game.. but there's a date on each achievement and we won't have that date.. because we did those achievement offline... so it's just wierd that you have 5000 point offline.. that you do not own any of those games... ? I have no idea if you following me ?

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    I "think" that you will be fine because I have got many points offline then signed in to update my profile for the points and never had a problem. Like when I had the beta kinect dashboard I played 4-5 games offline and got achievement's, I thought that they still got time stamped even offline (at least if you played the game) I think if you edited your gamer profile and added the achievement's that way they because it probably wont have the time or date (I have never done it so not sure).

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    Microsoft can't possibly ban for this, when you think about it it could of been as easy as you borrowed a friends console.
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    The profile / achievements system was designed to be used offline, if Microsoft didn't want you unlocking achievements offline the ability to gain achievements when you are not signed in to live would be disabled. This is enforced on PC games that have live access, however not 360 games.

    Interesting read: xbox.com/en-US/Live/EngineeringBlog/071510-AchievementsUnlocked

    One hot topic that came up in that meeting was that profiles must be available offline. That meant that a player didn’t have to be connected to Xbox LIVE in order to access his or her achievements or profile settings. The impassioned statement was, “I have to be able to take my Xbox to Whistler for a ski weekend, and have all the achievements I earn there show up online when I plug in at home Monday morning!” Life would have been a lot easier if hotels in Whistler offered free Internet access but, instead, offline access became a big part of the profile story. Not only could you go away for the weekend, but you didn’t have to worry if you lost your Internet connection before reaching a critical milestone. Or you could play without ever connecting to Xbox LIVE, earn a pile of achievements, and have them show up in the cloud the first time you got connected. Offline access made for some late nights for the development team, but we knew it was the right thing to do and that was enough to justify the overtime.
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    Thx again BigRod989,Dark Scyth & InsaneNutter for all good information.

    I believe all you guy.. It just an interesting topic


    Now for you who are using XBLA unlocked with your Jtag... how do you unlock your XBLA ?
    I usually use XM360 but I'm wonder if there's a difference between Yaris mode, XM360 or just Dashlaunch with ConPATCH parameter.

    In term security is there a difference, that could affect the profil (ex: xbla games that has no license, no console id attached to it etc..) so microsoft could see that the last time you played was on a "blank ID console". I'm saying that because if i remember, when you do achievement, the console save in your profile from which console ID you've play and a few other info ? I'm I right ? you probably know better than me for that part.

    I'm probably going too far but like I said it's a fun subject to talk but this would be my last question

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    This thread really helped me out alot, big thanks to InsaneNutter.
    But I still have a few questions, im considering using my live profile on my Jtag.
    If I load the Xbox to the NXE dash and my LIVE profile auto signs in, thats all good, and I install a game using NXE and then run NXE2GOD while still signed in will this mod my profile?

    Also are there any issues when thying to load DLC with a Live profile? Because asfar as I know DLC is profile locked so would I just sign out of my live profile run XM360 and simply unlock everything? (avatar clother, DLC, XBLA games etc)

    Lastly if I managed to unlock avatar clother and used them on my live profile, would that mod my profile? And what would happen when I transfer my profile back to a Live console would the avatar clothes/DLC be recognised on a nonJtag?

    Thanks alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecap89 View Post
    If I load the Xbox to the NXE dash and my LIVE profile auto signs in, thats all good
    Yes thats fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecap89 View Post
    and I install a game using NXE and then run NXE2GOD while still signed in will this mod my profile?
    Yes your running a homebrew app when signed in so it will add data to your profile, you can not use any sort of homebrew app with your live profile signed in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecap89 View Post
    Also are there any issues when thying to load DLC with a Live profile? Because asfar as I know DLC is profile locked so would I just sign out of my live profile run XM360 and simply unlock everything? (avatar clother, DLC, XBLA games etc)
    Sign out when using any homebrew or sign an offline profile in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluecap89 View Post
    Lastly if I managed to unlock avatar clother and used them on my live profile, would that mod my profile? And what would happen when I transfer my profile back to a Live console would the avatar clothes/DLC be recognised on a nonJtag?
    They would not show up on your retail console, the content is modified so you have broke the digital signature so it will be useless. It would probably also look suspicious to Microsoft that your avatar is wearing items it doesn't own. People have been profile banned for modding there avatar so its not something I would recommend messing with on your live profile anyway.
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