Crowdfund for rare Pokemon 10ANNIV distribution cartridge!

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  1. theSLAYER

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    This crowdfund has ended due to the cart been taken off the market, however the good news is the rom was released by Deoxyz from his own personal cart.

    Hello everyone, you may know me as theSLAYER from another site, but today I'm not representing there.

    Foreword:

    Working closely together with @InsaneNutter, we intend start a crowdfund to obtain a very very rare Cartridge that distributes 10 ANNIV Pokemon, for archival purposes here on Digiex.

    This would allow anyone replaying GEN 3 Pokemon games to obtain legitimate 10 ANNIV in the future. Much like is possible in Generations 4,5,6 and 7 thanks to the wonder cards which have been archived.

    We’re pretty confident we should be able to dump this cartridge using a Nintendo DS, InsaneNutter also has a GB Transferer 2 which is capable of dumping GB/GBC and GBA cartridges.

    This cartridge was used in October 2006 in the UK to distribute 10ANNIV Pokémon to English versions of Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire / Emerald / FireRed / LeafGreen.

    The Pokemon distributed to English carts can be traded via link cable or wireless adapter to any language.

    Target and Details:

    Shortfall: USD $1,400


    The target to hit is USD $1,500 which could be a fast or long to amass;
    If right off the bat we receive $100 from 15 souls, or if 30 people give us $50, and we can proceed to purchase it from eBay.

    We intend to provide early access to those who donate minimally USD$50.

    In the event donations were secured, but someone else purchased the cartridge (before us), we will refund all donations obtained.

    The crowdfund will be accepted via Paypal, and PM us for said e-mail address :)

    Do understand that due to various concerns, we will not be sharing who is the seller, and we hope that you are able to place faith in mine and InsaneNutter's reputation.

    Cheers!


    Current Donations:


    InsaneNutter - $100
     
  2. InsaneNutter

    InsaneNutter Resident Nutter Staff Member

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    Just to add to what the theSLAYER has said, i do believe this is something worth obtaining and preserving. As you will see if you look around the download and guide sections of Digiex we are passionate about preserving more obscure, hard to find content online, providing downloads links for everyone to enjoy.

    Event Pokemon for earlier generation Pokemon games are becoming increasingly rare, which is why i've been collecting and sharing them online for everyone else to enjoy.

    • We have Pokemon Generation 1 to Generation 3 save games with many (but not all) event Pokemon here: Pokemon GEN 1 to GEN 3 Saves. Myself and HaxAras have spent many many hours working on the GEN 3 save. Although many members in the Pokemon Community have helped and contributed to this.
    • We have the Bonus discs for the GameCube games here
    • Save game, event Pokemon and even two distribution carts for GEN 4 and 5 Pokesmon games here. We aim to keep these easily accessible, although credit goes to the people who contributed to them many years ago.
    • theSlayer is known for organising the wondercards on GEN 6 over on Project Pokemon and keeping an up to date archive accessible for everyone.
    • Digiex also has a collection of QR codes for GEN 7 Pokemon games.

    Multiple people have contributed to all the links above, we have simply brought the content together and made it easily accessible to anyone still playing the older Pokemon games today.


    So needless to say we're passionate about event Pokemon and want to see this project through.

    I co founded Digiex with Nimrod, which we have kept online since 2004. theSlayer is well known over at ProjectPokemon for his work on event Pokemon for later generations.

    To get things started i've pledge $100, so that's $1400 we need to raise.
     
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  3. Slaz

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    Hello from a fellow (event) Pokémon passionate.

    To build a good future is to preserve history, so I'm interested in this project and might donate some money. Luckily, PayPal is one of the methods I can actually use unlike Amazon Payments that Kickstarter requires you to use.

    However, some questions have been bothering me.

    1: How widespread is this crowdfund? Is it posted on any place besides Digiex and ProjectPokemon in attempts to spread the news?
    2: Have any negotiations with the seller been made or tried? Preservation is a cause where people often feel generous about.

    btw, it's relatively easy to find the seller with a little search. It feels kind of odd how raising more awareness for this crowdfund could also advert to other possible buyers. Nevertheless, I hope this comes off the ground and that these 10th Anniversary Pokémon will stay with us!
     
  4. InsaneNutter

    InsaneNutter Resident Nutter Staff Member

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    To answer your questions the best I can:

    1. The problem we have is it's against the rules of many forums to have anything to do with roms, which makes this even more difficult to spread the word about this project in communities that might be interested. Even PerojectPokemon is against that, however theSLAYER is a super moderator on there so might be able to come to an arrangement to have something posted on there about this preservation effort. We're not too bothered on Digiex as long as the content was never commercially sold, however if we did get a DMCA request we would have to comply with that. If that did happen what ever rhe outcome of this effort i'd ensure the people who donated got the end result to do with as they please, or were refunded.

    I have thought about posting this to Reddit, however for reasons you mentioned I wanted to try keep this more in communities i know where members would be interested in the same end goal, rather than it just been out there totally in the wild as it was.

    2. Contact has been made with the seller to obtain this is legit and fully working, however no negotiations on price have tried to be made. We were hoping to gather interest with an idea of what amount we might be able to raise before starting any negotiations, at least that way we have something to go to the table with rather than just picking a random amount out of the air.

    Indeed it's not too hard to find this seller online, however decided not to link to the seller in fear of alerting other possible buyers. This attempted fund raiser might well do that anyway as you mentioned, so its kind of a no win situation either way.

    The ideal solution would be the item could be purchased out right, then we do a crowdfund to release it, however the asking price is a significant amount of money to most people. So as it stands that's unrealistic.

    I wont deny this is going to be hard to do, and the odd's are certainly against us, however it's something i do feel is worthwhile us trying to accomplish.
     
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  5. 1quacka1

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    Here's an idea: rather than spending the $1500 to buy the cart outright, you could spend less money on a trip to visit him in Italy and just dump the rom on to your DS?

    I don't know if anyone is going to pay $1500 for this, remember something is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. Right now it seems that this amount is $100, do you know if he's had any other offers from private sellers?
     
  6. theSLAYER

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    I don't think you understand what we are going for.

    The guy only want's to sell at least at a price.
    Flying there to meet the person won't make a difference.
    This is a "test use and dump and return" scenario.

    It's understandable for a rare item without a digital copy in the wild to have such a price.

    Also, our goal is to crowdfund.
    If everyone chip in an amount, it'll be easier to achieve the intended $1,500 to grab it and dump it.
     
  7. Slaz

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    Thanks for the clear and detailed answer Nutter, I totally understand the situation and am willing to donate some.

    I checked eBay again just now and is it just me or has the listing.. Ended?

    Did you reserve it? Did someone else buy it? Or did the seller cancel the sale?
     
  8. Ammako

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    I strongly doubt they'd be willing to just dump the cartridge and send the rom, or to let someone show up and dump it themselves. If they're selling it for $1.5k, I think it's clear they're after profit and not charity.
    If someone's really interested in having it, they could buy it off them for $1.5k, or he could give them the rom for free and then he gets nothing because they won't care to buy it anymore. Same deal if someone went to their house and dumped it themselves.
    Then if the rom was out and about, the pool of potential buyers goes down, because a fair amount of people who would buy the cartridge would be happy to just get the rom for free online. That, and it may lead to bootleggers making fake copies of the cartridges and selling them on ebay, creating competition and driving the prices down.

    I'm really not in a position to spare money for this kind of thing which is unfortunate, but hopefully it may happen at some point (even if this one had indeed ended and we had to wait for a potential future sale somewhere, lol.)
     
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  9. InsaneNutter

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    The seller has sent me a message:

    I can see crowdfunding for something like this is going to be difficult, unless the seller is willing to wait for money to be gathered and wants to work with a group to do a community release.

    Since posting the above i got another message from the seller:

    Still a lot, but certainly an easier target to hit.
     
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  10. theSLAYER

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    I'm sorry to read about the seller taking it off,
    but I'm still hoping he'll take offers
     
  11. Yveltal

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    Hello, I have sent an email to some people from this thread and I would like to see if I could help you.

    If I can be of any help, let me know.

    Thanks!
     
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  12. InsaneNutter

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