The end of an era - Closure of the old Server

Discussion in 'Digiex Minecraft Server' started by Nimrod, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. Nimrod

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    I'm afraid today is the day where we must announce that we have renewed the Minecraft Server for the last time. This means, the server is in its last 30 days before it will be going for good.

    While this may come as a shock to some of you, others would have long seen this coming. Over the past 2-3 months very few Admins have been on, we haven't been whitelisting over the past month and the server is near its death. Sadly while it could have stayed strong, its true that most of the driving force behind it have long since lost interest in Minecraft, myself included. With the entire Admin team bored of the server, and avoid going on it as time and time again everytime an Admin joins they get harassed with stupid questions from people who haven't heard of Google. It's even got to the point where Admins IM accounts where being given out in the server by players to other players or new people to harass the Admin team at work, school and other places with again, useless Minecraft stuff. Also the cost has continued at $40 a month for the server, which donations dried up a few months ago meaning all costs are being paid for out of one Admins pocket. As such, hosting a public Minecraft server has gone from a joy, to a pain.

    Many of you have been reading the forums and followed progression on the new Minecraft Server 'Fresh Start' plan, and while thats still going ahead, I'm afraid were also announcing today that the plan for that is changing and sizing down. Instead of allowing anyone who played in the old server in, we will be taking the game into the private invite only realm and will only be inviting around 10-20 players at most to start with. The players invited will be those who have established good friendship with the Admin team, or have donated or done a lot for the current server. This is not done to disrespect other players who may have not donated or gone out of there way to become friendly with admins, but the truth to the matter is our new Private server is going to be low-spec, and low-maintance and we can only take a few trusted players. There is no way we can take the entire user base from our current server. The new Server will be run from a private computer at my house and will only have the resources to handle 6-10 players at most concurrently and the reasons for the first server closing still stand that there will be little to no Admins in the server. Again, requiring us to only have players we trust as we will not be spending our days policing (infact, if there is any grief problems, the player in question will lose there whitelist and never be allowed back).

    As such, for the next 30 days I suggest players enjoy what they can. No new players will be whitelisted to the server and we are to begin to stop advertising it places. For many of our players, this will be the point where we will part ways in good terms, and thank everyone for spending the last year of there life in our Minecraft Server. For those of you who are expecting an invite into the private server, its time to make yourself known by replying below. We will announce the finalized list for the private server in a couple of weeks.

    Out of interest, I'd like to announce that over the past year, we have regularlly been in the top 50 list of Minecraft Servers, and always in the Top 100 which is a great achievement by all!

    A big thank you to all our players, and we wish you all the best in the long term. Thanks for over a year of Minecrafting! Please feel free to discuss the topic and share your experiences, thoughts and so on..

    Edit: From talking people ingame, it appears selected people are reacting badly, mostly out of a misunderstanding. The new private server is invite-only which means that you can't just randomly find the IP and enter. You required to be invited. Existing Players can invite friends in (with maybe a limit of 1 a month or so). This basically means, to join you have to know someone else already in. This takes out the random griefers who randomly join, or the people that appear, don't do much and disappear. It's not that the people in the original list are the only people who can play in it full stop, but are just a list of people who will start with permission. If your on the list and think were missing someone, just invite them and they can join in. Its basically a change from public anyone can join, to private where you need to be whitelisted to be able to join, but someone in the server already can invite you.
     
  2. WildStyleZx89

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    Ive stopped playing on the server because it got boring like you said. But i will be starting to play minecraft again once notch has released 1.9 or the final minecraft. If that will be on your private server or somewhere else thats totally up to you Nimrod i havent been the easiest person so ill understand it if you wont be adding me.

    I like the low maintainance part it gives you and the others more time to enjoy or work on other stuff thats far more important than minecraft. Anyway i dont know what else to add to this so ill stop here lol.
     
  3. supercity

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    omfg

    You dont understand how hard im raging right now
    Grrrr
     
  4. vesa

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    i would like to be invited

    I liked the old server with only couple of people and the cool railroad between spawn city and Finland and my redstone ticker that made the old server finland lagg :D and all other cool buildings that the old server had i would like to be in server when it turns into that kind of server again.
    I have played a lot in the test server recently and i have build some awesome buildings there but i havent been to real server sinse it is too easy to play in there with free porkshops and all my items and redstone maker.
     
  5. jessenic

    jessenic Minecraft Guy

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    We will have completely new worlds: Survival, Creative, Nether and The End
     
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    Well it is sad that the server is going i somewhat like it mostly because it will be a closer more friendly community and no stupid people asking dumb questions and no worry of any grief at all. And for those who wish to be invited i think you probably wont if you ask and the admin team will probably need to know you well before your invited.
     
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    Lol, we sort of all new this was coming... When i went on the server a few days ago, there was no one on. Same with 20 mins later and so on. Its kind of good that it will private for griefers will not be able to grief and people will trust eachother more, therefore making a good community. I think that same as punky really. It was annoying with all the people asking, "How do i get whitelisted?" whilst standing infront of the new section. Meh, i just hope to see the new private server soon.
     
  8. Nimrod

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    It's true we will lose some good players from this, and I fully understand and accept it. The problem is, the current system isnt working. While having a popular open server was fun for the summer while we were all bored, and it did allow us to meet some amazing people who were close with now; it did however come at a heavy cost. I'll give a few examples of whats happened recently:

    Someone ingame trusted with my Trillian Astra details decided to hand them out ingame to a total newbie. I was at work in an important meeting with a potential client and they messaged me, buzzed me and demanded help. How embarassing it was with them paging my mobile phone while I was at work because they wanted to meet an admin and get whitelisted. The blur between Admins personal lifes and a computer game became so abused that its because unmanageable.

    Our password for MCMyAdmin leaked, and no admins could be bothered to change it. If admins can't be bothered, it goes to show how little interest we have in Minecraft

    Admins join a game just to check on something, and suddenly they have 5 players, 3 asking for jobs and 2 asking questions about how to craft items. Admins want to play the game to, and there was like 10 normal players in there. The players could easily have asked eachother but decided an Admin who just joined is the best person to harass. It takes the fun away, to the point where people have wanted to resign, or just don't bother coming on. Its sad we got into that situation, as such were moving totally away to the point where we can trust our current members are capable. Capable of using Google, or finding answers without harassing admins and clever enough to just get on and be trusted.

    The server costs $40 a month, thanks to some mega kindness from Nitvit610 and Strategia, it became affordable with them picking up a big chunk of the costs. Sadly the money is burned through and we don't want to ask or hint for more (nor do we want more btw guys). Its just become sad we have paid the last 3 month server bills ($120) with no benefit for ourselfs.

    Also I might add, the server in its current form was due to close anyways with the current maps and plugins and be re-launched as the new server as per the Fresh Start Plan, the only difference between what was planned and whats now the case is that instead of letting 40 people on, we will need to drop around half the user base just to ensure we don't spend money or have to have it staffed 24/7. So nothing majorly has changed. This is just the Official 30 day Notice for something already announced and voted for, in the Fresh Start Poll which people took part in.

    I really hope people can understand this. When we first started over a year ago in the Alpha it was a private server for friends. We ideally want to go back there, however we have met some real good friends since going public so we would like them to join us to. As such, getting an invite is more to do with being friendly and trusted by the Admins, then being active for long periods of time.

    Please do understand this.

    While we are on the subject, I thought I'd bring up whos already got access for either being staff, or making a donation or helping on the beta test:
    Snookieboy
    xzKingzxBurnzx
    Jessenic
    AlleopsO
    Skeven
    Punkymunky
    nitvit610
    Jozo117
    Strategia
    Vesa
    DionVC
    Supercity
    Goldentoe
    mikewalt11
    Wildstyle
    MinerJohn
    jellebrick (Providing he stops harassing me whenever I join the game :P)
    Brett616
    tipo114 (Only if he learns that I dont code McMmo and stops Minecraft questioning me all the time on Skype)
    jesse0074

    As you can see thats already 20. I know my original post said 15-20, we may extend that up to 30 at most leaving many spots free for other members to join if invited.


    Edit: From talking people ingame, it appears selected people are reacting badly, mostly out of a misunderstanding. The new private server is invite-only which means that you can't just randomly find the IP and enter. You required to be invited. Existing Players can invite friends in (with maybe a limit of 1 a month or so). This basically means, to join you have to know someone else already in. This takes out the random griefers who randomly join, or the people that appear, don't do much and disappear. It's not that the people in the original list are the only people who can play in it full stop, but are just a list of people who will start with permission. If your on the list and think were missing someone, just invite them and they can join in. Its basically a change from public anyone can join, to private where you need to be whitelisted to be able to join, but someone in the server already can invite you.
     
  9. Jozo117

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    Jozo is a sad face :( even though, when i first joined the server way back in 1.1, it was nice only having up to 10 people on at any given time and everyone being good friends, i like the server we have at the moment, ive met some great people, invited my friends and have had loads of good times with everyone that comes online. Especially now i have got the Mod rank ive been meeting even more people and have made a few more friendships in-game, and i wont like it at first not seeing them on anymore and only ever seeing the same 20 or 30 people but i know that we have to do this as of the cost and boredom of the game (which is now partially coming to me as there's nothing more for me to do except sit at spawn afk until a new person comes on and i give them a tour or somthing along those lines) anyway, this is starting to get a bit long so ill finish it off by saying I'll miss all of you who dont get into the new server :( and i hope you will still be a good member of digiex.net though and thank you for great times you've brought to the server.
    I really wished we didn't have to go so private (i thought it would be invite only like the first digiex server) but it has to happen like snook says. -Jozo

    Edit: Just so you guys know, i would donate more or even host the server if snook gives up on it but i'm 13 and have to earn my own money (there's not allot of jobs for 13 year olds where i live) I will defenately be much more active over the next month, e.g. waiting at spawn until someone comes on if im by myself, just to let you guys that wont be joining us later on have a great memory of the digiex server and all its great players.
     
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    Me and Tipo114 want to do somthing, he started making a 'RIP DIGIEX' sign so i got an idea, we want to build a kind of shrine for all the players, staying or not, where you can place a sign with somthing about the server, let it be good or bad, just anything you thought was a good thing that happened (when i say bad i mean as in your whole house was covered in lava or somthing), we want to start building it but dont know where, i want freebuild but i cant set warps. Im not asking an admin to come on right away just when they are on and tipo or I ar on aswell, please can you set the warp for us. Thanks
     
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    I take it your selectively reading, or not reading at all? It says its invite only.
     
  12. supercity

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    Bad Reaction Over

    I Wish i could do the same...... Or a few others to do the same in spawn, Like a memorial area. But i still know that it isnt going to be like that ;/ Digiex will stay one way or another :P
     
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    I know digiex will stay, its just most players wont :P
     
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    Were going through the request list, and will announce in the next few days the next round of people to gain access.

    I'd also like to announce a change to the Operator side of things. First of all, I'd like you all to thank Jessenic. Without him, this wouldn't be happening at all. I was prepared to throw in the towel and bring an end to the whole Minecraft adventure and move onto someone elses server. However he put this idea down and fought for it. Hes done all the coding on the new server, hes set up the server OS and everything. All I have done is made sure the resources were there that he asked for, and that I could help where possible. So without him, there wouldn't be a new invite-only sefver at all. As such, even though the ranks are merging down.
    As far as I'm concerned Jessenic is one of the founders / owners now of the Minecraft Server. He is in charge of the plugin path and development, and the server well being. A big thanks to Jessenic from everyone I hope :D
     
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    jessenic Minecraft Guy

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    We would not be here if you didn't introduce me to minecraft a year ago ;) But no problem, I'll try to do my best! :D
     
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    110% agree with snookie :D Jesse has put so much work into the server and no one knows really how much, just that he does a few plugins here and there, he does so much more and the server would hardly run without him doing all of this for us, great thanks to Jesse from me, and hopfullly everyone else does to. :D
     
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    Have all the requests been sent out yet?
     
  18. Nimrod

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    None, there be posted here when they are. All we have announced is the first wave. Theres still tons of spots. But were not rushing to it and giving everyone whos interested a fair chance at requesting.
     
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    Wave 2 of invites are starting now!

    This second wave will be about ensuring to catch people who are missing from the first Wave (The first wave was mostly Donators or people who helped Beta Test the Demo Server which guaranteed them a spot)

    This wave will work by each ADMIN having 2 votes, of which they can use to invite people. The idea being that each Admin is on at different times, and has different friendship groups. This way, we can ensure we catch a bigger mix of people to join the server.

    So if your interested, contact the Admin your closest friends with, and secure your vote. Though please don't pester them more than asking them if they will consider you.

    Wave Three will be our final wave, which will only happen once Invites are accepted or declined from Wave one and two (so we know how many spots are left)

    So for Wave two, I personally would like to give my two invites to:

    Flamzorz
    Scike


    Also on a sadder note, Supercity and Jellebrick lost there invites for the time being due to advertising in the old server and lieing to players over the fate of the server. If they don't sort the outstanding issues out with the Admin team, there invites will be up for others in Wave three.
     
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  20. xzKinGzxBuRnzx

    xzKinGzxBuRnzx The Feature Man

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    I suggest the next wave be Biodaddy, I see him and brett playing all the time... OfficerHalf it also seems like I've seen playing more than the others.
     

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