Ok, ive pulled the jasper out of the closet and desided to install the coolrunner ver b in it. Nand is run thru multibuilder and everything works fine. The reason the jasper was tossed aside was the lite-on drive went thru meltdown and dvd key was un retrievable till now. I don't have a lite- on drive atm but have a pile of good sammy m28 drives and plan to leave the coolrunner in the system. I really would like this thing to read games to make it easier to baack them up onto my harddrive. I have a ck3 lite and the recommended via 6421 board with working knowledge of flashing the drives. I have been reading post after post about this and need it cleared up.... Can i get the sammy drive to work in the jasper and if so can someone help me out with the proper way to flash it. I have attempted to spoof one in as a lite-on but it still gives that wonderful message. My log from multibuilder showed now errors with the frct.bin file . i just want to finish this thing and move on to my next one when the demon comes out!! I have a few xenon systems to get going again. lol.