Trying to get Gaming PC again...

[Brock]

So i'm on about my 4th try on configuring a computer within decently low prices and I am in need of your help. I am getting it prebuild, I know its cheaper to build it yourself, and i'm trying to configure the best one.

I know its way cheaper to buy all the parts and assemble it myself. I don't trust myself enough with putting together a $800 machine for first time.

I'm thinking of getting a monitor off of a different site. Maybe this one. Newegg.com - Acer G246HLAbd Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor 250 cd/m2 ACM 100,000,000:1 (1000:1)

Completely open to suggestions, so throw them at me if you have any,

First one (Cheapest)

Spoiler

AMD Gamer Special: iBUYPOWER® Gaming PC

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[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Case[/TD]
[TD]1 x Raidmax Cobra Gaming Case - Red[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Case Lighting[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Processor[/TD]
[TD]1 x AMD FX-8320 CPU (8x 3.50GHz/8MB L3 Cache)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER PowerDrive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Processor Cooling[/TD]
[TD]1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - Standard 120mm Fan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Memory[/TD]
[TD]1 x 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Video Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x AMD Radeon R7 260X - 2GB[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Motherboard[/TD]
[TD]1 x Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P -- AMD 970[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Power Supply[/TD]
[TD]1 x 500 Watt - Standard - Free Upgrade to 500W OCZ ModXStream Pro - 80 PLUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Primary Hard Drive[/TD]
[TD]1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Data Hard Drive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Optical Drive[/TD]
[TD]1 x [12x Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Reader, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive - Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]2nd Optical Drive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Flash Media Reader / Writer[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Meter Display[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Sound Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Network Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]USB Expansion Card[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Operating System[/TD]
[TD]1 x Windows 8.1 + Office 365 Trial [Free 30-Day !!!] 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Keyboard[/TD]
[TD]1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Keyboard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Mouse[/TD]
[TD]1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Mouse[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Monitor[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Second one

Spoiler

AMD FX 4-Core Configurator: iBUYPOWER® Gaming PC
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[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Case[/TD]
[TD]1 x ARC 647 Gaming Case - Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Case Lighting[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Processor[/TD]
[TD]1 x AMD FX-6300 CPU (6x 3.50GHz/6MB L2 Cache)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER PowerDrive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Processor Cooling[/TD]
[TD]1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - Standard 120mm Fan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Memory[/TD]
[TD]1 x 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Video Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x AMD Radeon R7 250 - 2GB[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Free Stuff[/TD]
[TD]1 x [FREE] - GG Cruiser PC200-I Headset w/ large 57mm drivers for clear audio - FREE with any System ($29 Value)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Motherboard[/TD]
[TD]1 x Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P -- AMD 970[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Power Supply[/TD]
[TD]1 x 400 Watt - Standard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Primary Hard Drive[/TD]
[TD]1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Data Hard Drive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Optical Drive[/TD]
[TD]1 x 24x Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]2nd Optical Drive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Flash Media Reader / Writer[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Meter Display[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Sound Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Network Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]USB Expansion Card[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Operating System[/TD]
[TD]1 x Windows 8.1 + Office 365 Trial [Free 30-Day !!!] 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Keyboard[/TD]
[TD]1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Keyboard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Mouse[/TD]
[TD]1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Mouse[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Monitor[/TD]
[TD]1 x 22" 1920x1080 ViewSonic VA2251M-LED -- FHD Monitor[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Third one

Spoiler

AMD Gamer Special: iBUYPOWER® Gaming PC
[TABLE="width: 100%"]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Case[/TD]
[TD]1 x Raidmax Cobra Gaming Case - Red[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Case Lighting[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Processor[/TD]
[TD]1 x AMD FX-8320 CPU (8x 3.50GHz/8MB L3 Cache)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]iBUYPOWER PowerDrive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Processor Cooling[/TD]
[TD]1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - Standard 120mm Fan[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Memory[/TD]
[TD]1 x 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Video Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x AMD Radeon R7 260X - 2GB[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Free Stuff[/TD]
[TD]1 x [FREE] - GG Cruiser PC200-I Headset w/ large 57mm drivers for clear audio - FREE with any System ($29 Value)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Free Stuff[/TD]
[TD]1 x [FREE] - McAfee Antivirus PLUS 2014 - FREE with any System ($49 Value)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Free Stuff[/TD]
[TD]1 x [FREE Game Download] - AMD Never Settle Forever - Silver - Free w/ purchase of AMD R7 260X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Motherboard[/TD]
[TD]1 x Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P -- AMD 970[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Power Supply[/TD]
[TD]1 x 500 Watt - Standard - Free Upgrade to 500W OCZ ModXStream Pro - 80 PLUS[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Primary Hard Drive[/TD]
[TD]1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Data Hard Drive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Optical Drive[/TD]
[TD]1 x [12x Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Reader, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive - Black[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]2nd Optical Drive[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Flash Media Reader / Writer[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Meter Display[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Sound Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Network Card[/TD]
[TD]1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]USB Expansion Card[/TD]
[TD]X[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Operating System[/TD]
[TD]1 x Windows 8.1 + Office 365 Trial [Free 30-Day !!!] 64-bit[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Keyboard[/TD]
[TD]1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Keyboard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #818181"]
[TD]Mouse[/TD]
[TD]1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Mouse[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="bgcolor: #B3B3B3"]
[TD]Monitor[/TD]
[TD]1 x 19" 1366x768 ASUS -- LCD, VGA/DVI Connection[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[400nob]

I would personally go for the first option. Better CPU then the 2nd option and similar to the most expensive option.
Personally I would remove the optical drive, very few things require discs nowadays, and I would swap the HDD for a SSD or SSHHD(hybrid). They have dropped in price over the last year and the difference in speed is very noticable.

Do the cases and motherboards you have suggested come with USB 3.0? I also recommend that.

This is one I plan to make in the summer, I'm trying to go for a small build to mimic the next gen console sizes. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

 

[Dark Scyth]

I say the first or third one. Though honestly, I would still recommend building your own. It's honestly really easy when you get all the parts, the mobo usually comes with instructions on putting it all together and there are tons of video tuts as well. As well as a whole forum here willing to help you out.

The last one is liquid cooled so it should keep way cooler temps than what the first one would and you should be able to OC quite a bit as well (pretty sure all of the FX processors are unlocked anyways).

 

[Brock]

I would personally go for the first option. Better CPU then the 2nd option and similar to the most expensive option.
Personally I would remove the optical drive, very few things require discs nowadays, and I would swap the HDD for a SSD or SSHHD(hybrid). They have dropped in price over the last year and the difference in speed is very noticable.

Do the cases and motherboards you have suggested come with USB 3.0? I also recommend that.

This is one I plan to make in the summer, I'm trying to go for a small build to mimic the next gen console sizes. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

Is a lower sized SSD better than a higher sized HDD? Also the motherboard currently selected has 8 x USB 2.0 ports; 2 x USB 3.0 ports so it has 3.0.

I say the first or third one. Though honestly, I would still recommend building your own. It's honestly really easy when you get all the parts, the mobo usually comes with instructions on putting it all together and there are tons of video tuts as well. As well as a whole forum here willing to help you out.

The last one is liquid cooled so it should keep way cooler temps than what the first one would and you should be able to OC quite a bit as well (pretty sure all of the FX processors are unlocked anyways).

I'm a pretty clumsy person so I don't want to risk breaking a $200 video card. I know its so much more cheaper to build your own, but until I have done or have seen someone do it in front of me then I'm gonna have it prebuilt.

 

[400nob]

You really only need high capacity HDD for storage. Using an SSD as your main unit would speed load times for OS and software. Moving files and folders would be quicker.

I personally would want a 128GB minimum SSD as my base unit with my OS loaded on it, games I play frequently to be stored on there and everything else I use daily.

I have a micro server at home that stores/hosts all my files like games, videos, pictures and important documents etc so I have access to them and move them across when I plan to use them frequently.

I agree with @Dark Scyth, you should have a go at building it yourself, it's almost plug and play anyway

 

[Brock]

You really only need high capacity HDD for storage. Using an SSD as your main unit would speed load times for OS and software. Moving files and folders would be quicker.

I personally would want a 128GB minimum SSD as my base unit with my OS loaded on it, games I play frequently to be stored on there and everything else I use daily.

I have a micro server at home that stores/hosts all my files like games, videos, pictures and important documents etc so I have access to them and move them across when I plan to use them frequently.

I agree with @Dark Scyth, you should have a go at building it yourself, it's almost plug and play anyway

So since it speeds up load times would it load games faster ie. loading screens? Also would I be able to have a SDD and HDD plugged in at the same time? Having the OS on the SDD and other items on the HDD. Currently I'm leaning towards the HDD first then buying a SDD later on. I feel that I would much rather need space than have faster loading times.

 

[400nob]

It will load everything much faster and in theory is should last longer due to no moving parts within it.
You can have SSD and HDD installed at the same time if you have enough sata ports to accommodate them. In my server I have 4 HDD's.


There is nothing wrong with having a HDD instead of an SSD but I think most people will agree that an SSD is a better option as the primary drive.

I don't think the SSHDD (HDD Hybrid) are much more expensive than a normal HDD and they have an SSD for the regularly used programs and documents, combined with a HDD for quantity.

I personally would have a 128GB SSD (£50ish) as my primary drive as it enables me to download bits and bobs and then I have external HDDs I can use for everything else I need to store more permanently.
If you have an old laptop or PC you could use the HDD from that to save you buying a new one.

 

[InsaneNutter]

I cant recommend an SSD enough, the difference between an SSD and hard drive is huge! everything just feels instant with a SSD.

I have a 128gb SSD, on that I have Windows and all my apps installed. I then have a 500gb hard drive doucments / games, anything else is on my home server. What I have done is map my documents folder to my hard drive, so when I save stuff I’m not taking up valuable space on the SSD.

Even with Windows, Office, Adobe Creative Suite (12gb+) and all my apps I still have around 40gb free on my 120gb SSD, i personally think an SSD is well worth the investment.

 

[Brock]

Ok I need your guy's help again. Which of these parts are better? The list that the parts are in can't be mix with anything else.

Up to 3.9GHz 4th-generation Intel Core i7-4770 processor with 8MB cache
8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM
1TB 7200 RPM hard drive
1GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 645 graphics

or

3.4GHz fourth-generation Intel Core i7-4770 processor with 8MB cache, up to 3.9GHz
16GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM
2TB 7200 RPM SATA hard drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 Ti graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory

 

[Neoteam1]

3.4GHz fourth-generation Intel Core i7-4770 processor with 8MB cache, up to 3.9GHz
16GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM
2TB 7200 RPM SATA hard drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 Ti graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory

.

 

[InsaneNutter]

The second spec:

3.4GHz fourth-generation Intel Core i7-4770 processor with 8MB cache, up to 3.9GHz
16GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM
2TB 7200 RPM SATA hard drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 Ti graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory

 

[MikkelPixel]

Ok I need your guy's help again. Which of these parts are better? The list that the parts are in can't be mix with anything else.


or

Second one
But if you could find one with a i5 4670k
Gtx 770
8 gigs ram
I'd for that one