Alternative to Migration Plan - Fresh Start

[vesa]

By that logic, I should also have a nether portal and the world is overrun by endermen. Minecraft isn't realistic. </thread>

maybe minecraft is not realistic but i still want survival to be a place where it is hard to survive over night and no easy [gate] or [lift]protections you can ether make fence gates or doors or use pistons or just use ladders because mobs are stupid

edit:
minecraft is completely realistic because some people belive that there is hell and all animals in the that have been in in somewhere in universe have not been seen yet!

 

[Skeven]

You're contradicting yourself. Why does it matter if we use gates and lifts? They perform the same at keeping mobs out as doors, so why not allow them? Some players prefer them for aesthetic reasons and other for functionality and I think that we should provide that option to our players.

There is a lot that is not realistic about Minecraft, so there's no point to your argument.

Things that are not realistic: redstone, portals, noteblocks, pigzombies, enderman, skeletons armed with bows, glowstone, lava/water dynamics (e.g., seemingly infinite propagation of water). I don't care as to what any of your rationalizations you have to these and whatever else that isn't "realistic" in minecraft. It wasn't meant to be a life simulator, it was meant to be a GAME. My point is, you're just trying to find an excuse to leave out [gate] and [lift] because you don't personally see the advantage of them over other methods.

I mean really, you say

and if pistons make lagg then you can make doors so we dont need [gates] for anything

But how are we to cover a 5x5 expanse with a 2x1 door?


Edit: Finally, there's this

only thing i don't like that i would lose my craft book redstone makers

So you don't really want CraftBook's ICs to go and you don't think that signs that perform the functions of complex redstone within a single block is cheating?
If you're going to say [lift] and [gate] are cheating, don't show your disappointment for losing CraftBook ICs. (And yes, I understand that you were okay with having to build the full thing anyhow, but disappointed nonetheless.)

 

[vesa]

Some players prefer them for aesthetic reasons and other for functionality and I think that we should provide that option to our players.

ok maybe gates are useful but i see no use for lift sign

So you don't really want CraftBook's ICs to go and you don't think that signs that perform the functions of complex redstone within a single block is cheating?

i dont like cheating anymore at anything even in ics that save huge ammount of room

 

[Nimrod]

Ok guys, I think Skeven you made your point and Vesa knows it. So lets just move on and focus more on the servers benefit.

4 days of the vote to go and we have a low turn out, Surely theres more than 10 people who want to have a say on all there buildings, considering over 150 users have had write access to that world over the past year - Can people who know players on Skype / IM's please direct them to the forums to vote on this? If users don't input there views, it becomes difficult to work with them at a later date when they suddenly find there buildings are gone and are wondering why. Really appreicate it if we can get the vote closer to at least the 15-20 people mark, as this would reflect active players on the server over the last few weeks.

A few names who have entered the Demo Beta 1.8 server and not voted (and should properly vote, and give feedback from there experiences in the relevant 1.8 feedback threads) :
AceAllahNinja
brett616
Chazza117
dionvc
hammemo
jesse0074
ma252
nitvit610
Onderzetter
savagesam
timieee

To help the situation, just to let everyone know. When it comes to 1.9, were give the people who voted in this poll (regardless of if they voted yes or no) 24-48 hours early access to pick spots on the new creative and survival worlds before normal players can join, in either the fresh start plan, or the migration plan depending on which one wins.
-However if you joined the pre-release demo 1.8 Server during its tests stages, and haven't provided feedback in the relevant threads, you will not gain this benefit. [This doesn't apply to users who havent played in the pre-release 1.8 demo server]

 

[Ruben Snijders]

I totally agree with this,
A fresh start seems awesome,
Finally the 1x1 towers in freebuild get removed,
And the nether/minetopia connected to the survival world seems awesome,
-Onder

 

[Flamzorz]

I guess I'm the only no voter xD
Now I think about it doens't sound too bad I guess...

 

[Nimrod]

I guess I'm the only no voter xD
Now I think about it doens't sound too bad I guess...

Well as the only objector, what is your main reasoning, Items in a chest?

 

[Flamzorz]

Pretty much. I just have a ton of wood and Stone. I know it isn't rare or anything but it sure is handy to have around. But oh well.

 

[Nimrod]

Pretty much. I just have a ton of wood and Stone. I know it isn't rare or anything but it sure is handy to have around. But oh well.

Are you really against a new fresh start and all the benefits (new worlds, new features, more awesome places to build etc) for the sake of some wood and stone? You are aware there is a Creative World where you can get those items on demand with one click, as well as Survival World which I can ensure you, will be packed with lots of stone and dirt to use. To top it off, if everyone had there items from 1.7, you know the Survival aspect wouldn't exist, as everyone would have the items they need already and wouldnt struggle to survival, so you would ruin the point of Survival, and Creative you would have all those items. Also, most of the items in our current server are practically cheats, as McMmo has handed out diamonds and other rare items all the time for digging up dirt, which in a proper Minecraft would be rare as hell, therefore bringing those items across would give a massive advantage to old players ,and also flood the server with dummy items.

Also please take into account, you were voting for keeping City World, having Survival World and Creative World half the size they could be, for the sake of those chests? Now I don't want to ruin a democratic process, and if you had a really good reason like losing your buildings (which I was expecting massive no votes for, which no one has voted for) I'd be sure not to comment, but your asking for all this (and keeping a laggy server), over a chest or two of items? I hate to say it, but have you really thought about your decision, and not just rushed into it without putting much thought into it? Please think what your voting for :/

 

[Flamzorz]

Yes it was a pretty rushed dumb vote I'll admit that. I just dislike starting over from scratch. I always dislike playing minecraft at the beginning. I love it after you have a house set up and stuff and you have some decent materials but when you start it's kind of boring. But I guess it won't be so bad...

 

[Strategia]

Yes it was a pretty rushed dumb vote I'll admit that. I just dislike starting over from scratch. I always dislike playing minecraft at the beginning. I love it after you have a house set up and stuff and you have some decent materials but when you start it's kind of boring. But I guess it won't be so bad...

That's one reason why pretty much the first thing I did on the temp 1.8 server when it went to survival, was to start a village. If you band together with several players, you'll have a much easier time in the beginning, and as you progress you're still a step ahead of where you would be if you went at it alone, provided you have some decent level of coordination and teamwork. If you have, say, one person cutting down/farming wood, and a number of people exploring caves and branch mining, you'll be able to rack up resources like mad.

 

[Nimrod]

In reality, with every single vote except for Flamzorz going for a Yes vote (combined with him mostly taking back his vote) I believe its fair to say the Fresh Start Vote has one by a major majority.

Therefore, please find the plan posted here: https://digiex.net/general-discussi...rt-plan-v1-planned-changes-come-november.html

If you wish to discuss this further, you may on this thread.

Or if you want to give specific feedback for each of the two Worlds (Creative and Survival) you can do so at:
Survival: https://digiex.net/general-discussi...r/9319-pre-release-1-8-survival-feedback.html
Creative: https://digiex.net/general-discussi...r/9320-pre-release-1-8-creative-feedback.html

Note: If you are wanting Pre-access to the Final Server, Giving feedback on those two setups is a requirement.

 

[robbie500]

where will we whitelist for new server ?

 

[Nimrod]

Look at the Plan Link in the post above yours and your find out.

 

[robbie500]

i dont exactly want pre access i just want to know when the whitelist application for will be out ?

 

[Nimrod]

To quote myself from the post you can't seem to read:

To become whitelisted you can either: Pre-register your interest in November, based on playing on the old 'current' server. Be referred in by another player, or apply through the application process on the website.

This is the website.

 

[robbie500]

can we apply through an application to be pre registered and i played the current serve minecraft.digiex.net

 

[Nimrod]

I doubt your be able to pre-register due to your inability to read. We are in October.

 

[robbie500]

Ok I get the point it's October I'm not an ass and I will need to wait until NOVEMBER to REGISTER f