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Red Alert 3 BETA [Download, Keys and Information]

I completely understand your concerns, and I think I may have come across incorrectly.

What I was wondering (and I realize that this would require at least two computers), is that you create Lavarider's copy on one computer, analyze the responses that one gets and compare them to the responses that a different computer gets. Then, once you've done that (or before, I don't know. I'm not too experienced here), is that you use the fake key (the GAPP one) to try and "activate" your local copy of the game by mimicking lava's setup. Then that could be the crack that we need, couldn't it?
 
@FandomofHell
Well, you are correct but the thing is even if I have a legit key unless I'm the first one to use it I would not gamble in using it on my test system. Because of the sea of security blockading in front of us.

I would maybe play with my legit key on a VM or virtual environment first (playing safe) to understand the flow so we can make a virtual loophole. In the case of Lavarider I would just assist in any information I can feed him so that he can do it from his end. Because it's just not quite safe since this is just beta and probably this is already a monitored thread.

Unless we can exploit other holes or make our own holes.

EDIT:
Wait . . . your right again mimicking Lava's working setup is perfect it'll fill the holes that I keep stumbling on and yes maybe from there we can make a workaround but not a crack.
 
That's true. But what if both computers were disconnected from the internet? Lava did say that, if his computer was disconnected from the internet, he could still boot up the game. Which means that one of the authentication barriers is already given a green if a serial is identified by the registration servers once. Since the majority of us want to play offline, wouldn't this help you at least get really close to the solution?

Edit: Yay! So that may help us a ton! But we'll need lava's permission to get you the code...

Oh, and we don't need a crack. All we need is a small workaround for the first serial. Someone else has already hacked other parts to get us skirmish and LAN play.
 
what i have noticed. you can start it while offline once u activated , you can also unistall and reinstall with a completely different key ( i used one of the ones on the 1st page) and the game will still launch no problems.
 
@Heavyarms2050
Worst thing, . . . HMMN . . . HMMN . . . they move the launching date even further and pissing a lot of people who are already pissed off.

Heheheh (chuckles)

@FandomofHell
Yes, but until I hear that from Lavarider himself that it works offline. I'll be at ease that there is a definite hole already once it's been authenticated.

That was my hunch before when I was looking at the SekyuROM files that suddenly appeared on my system, that's why I was asking if someone before could furbish me with them. I thought that those are the stamped passports stored locally that hey you're cleared and you check out good on our servers.

EDIT:
@knightwolf
If you say that it works, so maybe it does. Still we need to fill the a lot of holes with the missing files and entries that were created past the initial successful activation.

From there yes we can make a loophole, but there is a thin line there that we need to be aware of and not cross. If it's just one system PID it's okay to uninstall, re-install over and over but if its on different machines that will populate different PID tagged on that key. That should not get reflected back to the auth. server or the key will get locked.

We need more people to sight there views or ideas so we can fill the pool and think faster.

Just refresh I don't like double posting.
 
@Heavyarms2050
Worst thing, . . . HMMN . . . HMMN . . . they move the launching date even further and pissing a lot of people who are already pissed off.

Heheheh (chuckles)

@FandomofHell
Yes, but until I hear that from Lavarider himself that it works offline. I'll be at ease that there is a definite hole already once it's been authenticated.

That was my hunch before when I was looking at the SekyuROM files that suddenly appeared on my system, that's why I was asking if someone before could furbish me with them. I thought that those are the stamped passports stored locally that hey you're cleared and you check out good on our servers.
No! No launch date moving! Please! ;)

And Lava did the four tests that you mentioned earlier, and two of them (the one with it offline and the one for a fake key with an imported registry) passed.
Originally Posted by psychophat
@siberianspy

Test #1 - On the test PC
- copy the game don't install it
- replace the key with a fake one before merging the exported registry file
- run a test if it pass with online connection

Test #2 - Offline
- run a test if it pass with offline connection

Test #3 - No SekyuROM but online
- as an additional condition make sure NO SekyuROM files are present on the system (under program files and active user profile)
- run a test if it pass with online connection

Test #4 - No SekyuROM but offline
- run a test if it pass with offline connection
Test #1...PASSED!

Test#2....PASSED!

Test#3...FAILED!

Test#4...FAILED!

Securom is required!

When run with Securom blocker...Startup failed!

ERGC key does not matter if correct reg keys are in place.

Testing fresh install next.
Edit: See? He got it to work. Which means that he probably has the missing link. Now we just need him to get you the data, if it's alright.

Oh, and we can just use the GAPP key for authentication purposes. The thing's been registered to its maximum already, so it's probably banned as is. If we use that as the "legit" key, then we won't have any problems at all! (Hopefully)
 
@FandomofHell
Correct and yes I have thought of the possibilities before that's why I asked him if he can do that process. Well lets wait for him or if there are others that are already activated and would like to help please do. And we will just keep things low and post only the result at every phase or file request to keep the noise down.

But if this is the case we can have a working game but take note this will not work online anymore because we will target to deviate the check and make the game work permanently without online intervention both in checks and in game play this would be the case.

EDIT:
Additional note if we do this it'll like what I've said back at Mininova and to replace the online with LAN but an option is to permanently kill online to avoid checks. Well maybe until we can move further in taking out the Sekyu thingamajig to pass thru for online use.

Just refresh I don't like double posting
 
@FandomofHell
Correct and yes I have thought of the possibilities before that's why I asked him if he can do that process. Well lets wait for him or if there are others that are already activated and would like to help please do. We'll just keep things low and post only the result at every phase or file request to keep the noise down.

But if this is the case we can have a working game but take note this will not work online anymore because we will target to deviate the check and make the game work permanently without online intervention both in checks and in game play this would be the case.

EDIT:
Additional note if we do this it'll like what I've said back at Mininova and to replace the online with LAN but an option is to permanently kill online to avoid checks. Well maybe until we can move further in taking out the Sekyu thingamajig.

Just refresh I don't like double posting

Ok. Well, if you guys want to email me the stuff (or just want to email me), please send an email to fandomofhell@yahoo.com. That's my email, so feel free to use it!

Edit: With that in mind, I need to get to bed. Need to readjust my sleep schedule to deal with college now, instead of staying up until 5:00 in the morning like two days ago... -_-

Double Edit: Thanks for all of your help, psychophat! We couldn't have gotten this far without your help!
 
Does this mean I should stay awake for another hour? ;P

Edit: I don't think it's feasible for me to stay up anymore. If you do get it to work, you will now be, in my books, one of the best hackers of all time (cracker or whatever). In the mean time, I'm taking a short, 8 hour nap.

Edit after psychophat's latest post: Good to know. I wish I could help more, but it seems like the ball's in your court. Can't wait to read the results tomorrow! See you then!

Edited again: I mean, see you today... -_- zzzzzzz...
 
@Heavyarms2050
Worst thing, . . . HMMN . . . HMMN . . . they move the launching date even further and pissing a lot of people who are already pissed off.

Heheheh (chuckles)

@FandomofHell
Yes, but until I hear that from Lavarider himself that it works offline. I'll be at ease that there is a definite hole already once it's been authenticated.

That was my hunch before when I was looking at the SekyuROM files that suddenly appeared on my system, that's why I was asking if someone before could furbish me with them. I thought that those are the stamped passports stored locally that hey you're cleared and you check out good on our servers.

EDIT:
@knightwolf
If you say that it works, so maybe it does. Still we need to fill the a lot of holes with the missing files and entries that were created past the initial successful activation.

From there yes we can make a loophole, but there is a thin line there that we need to be aware of and not cross. If it's just one system PID it's okay to uninstall, re-install over and over but if its on different machines that will populate different PID tagged on that key. That should not get reflected back to the auth. server or the key will get locked.

We need more people to sight there views or ideas so we can fill the pool and think faster.

Just refresh I don't like double posting.


It works offline...Sorry I was gone all day..some of us have a life you know..:P
Tell you what Psychophat...Ill send you my reg keys if you swear that you will not release them to anyone else. Just give me your email and Ill do it.
 
Ugh... Can't... Sleep... And it's pissing me off. So I'm back. (I tossed and turned for an hour without getting anywhere. Yay.)

Yay! Thank you SO much for agreeing, lava! This will help us a ton! psychophat should be back on shortly. He wanted to test out a paul.dll thing.

Edit: If it's alright, I would like to fool around with a copy as well. I've got 5 computers (two of which are laptops) which should help me test out my theories. I promise to NEVER use your key, as well, except for the one computer that I've already disconnected from the internet for testing purposes. Pretty Please?

Edit: Really, Roleg? You seem to forget that the yankee's have done more things and acted as the world's "defenders of justice" more times than any other nation on the planet. I think that means we got bigger balls than YOU do. And, you know, big balls are generally accompanied by bigger sticks. ;) To hit things with, of course.
 
@FandomofHell
Oh crap CD/DVD emulation failed but encountered different result than I expected:

Test #1 - Plain extracted to image to MDF
- plain MDS/MDF containing game installer files
- loaded using DTools 4.11 without YASU + EMU off FAILED insert disc
- loaded using DTools 4.11 with YASU + EMU on FAILED insert disc

Test #2 - 4 Rings based from Crysis disc as base image
- made the image based from original disc then replaced the files with the installer after extraction
- loaded using DTools 4.11 without YASU + EMU off + original paul FAILED insert disc
- loaded using DTools 4.11 with YASU + EMU on + fake paul from Crysis FAILED crashed no error msg.

Test #3 - Using TW then KW disc as base image
- made the image based from original disc then replaced the files with the installer after extraction
- loaded using DTools 4.11 without YASU + EMU off + no paul avail. FAILED insert disc
- loaded using DTools 4.11 with YASU + EMU on + no paul avail. FAILED insert disc

I have not concluded if the security check stayed when I dumped it, but if paul calls the right disc with the same crypt as paul it will pass but when the check goes to the dat file it may call for something hidden or proceed to next check. I'm pondering on this a little more, will try to borrow other games with paul on them like COD4 or CIV4.

@Lavarider
I'll PM you my email address and before we doo anything start I'll compile a checklist first so we can trade file lists and information so you too can isolate which files are really req. for activation. I'll be done with this by tomorrow no hurry I'm still pushing my luck with the disc emulation thingamajig.

Geez, hate . . . SekyuROM v.07.37.0012 protection type cd-key.

We need more people to sight there views or ideas so we can fill the pool and think faster.
 
hey what tool do u use to edit/view .dll files? can u give me a name plz
 
@iBBi
Please be specific, to be blunt you can use DLL Export Viewer or PE Viewer. It will show you the address and some functions of a library or executable. For editing purposes use your ever handy PE editor/disassembler to whack those files wide open. Caution: Remember to BACKUP before any file whacking jobs.

CD/DVD EMU Test:
Encountered trap heheheh . . . req. sec. module cannot be activated prog. cannot be executed code: 5023. Oops . . . sorry I left YASU open. Heheheh. Now it got "The game can not start. The game needs access to the internet in order to verify ownership of this game. Please ensure that your computer is online and try again." Wow, now this is bizarre I'm doing the test on my main system not on the other one. Geez, okay it's official I cant think straight anymore I've forgotten if I've modified anything since this morning.

Got tired of waiting for the image to finish, I've moved that aside for now. Well moving on to the thing on the side, it seems I should not have removed the entries but followed and kept searching for the next one. Now am getting memory allocation errors after each comp. when testing. I have made a lot of mistakes now with the dat file and will sleep on it until tomorrow its likely I need to read more on Sekyu or just set this one out this is uncharted territory to me already . . . . ZzZz*

EDIT:
Please don't quote long messages, lets save db storage space + bandwidth.

Just use the "Post Reply" button below takes the scrolling time away and use Refresh I hate double posting.
 
This is what I have been able excavated :)

Title: Command & Conquer - Red Alert 3
Version: Beta 2
Developer: EA Los Angeles
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Language: english
MediaType: download

Scanning -> E:\Red Alert 3 Beta\RetailExe\1.0\ra3game.dat
File Type : Exe, Size : 15881488 (0F25510h) Byte(s)
-> File Appears to be Digitally Signed @ Offset 0F24000h, size : 01510h / 05392 byte(s)
[Heuristics] -> Flag : 00000000000000000000010000000101
[!] SecuROM Detected - Version 07.37.0012
[!] Possible CD/DVD-Key or Serial Check -> cdkey
- Scan Took : 4.359 Second(s)

Paul.dll (Activation):
Version 4.0.1.9

Activation should be removed in Final version as when you rename activation files, you get "Insert Disk".
____________________________________

Title: Command & Conquer - Red Alert 3
Version: Beta 2
Patch: 1.1

Scanning -> ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/eapacific/RA3Be....1/ra3game.dat
File Type : Exe, Size : 15840528 (0F1B510h) Byte(s)
-> File Appears to be Digitally Signed @ Offset 0F1A000h, size : 01510h / 05392 byte(s)
-> Suspicious MZ Header..
[!] SecuROM Detected - Version 07.37.0012
[!] Possible CD/DVD-Key or Serial Check -> cdkey
- Scan Took : 1.906 Seconds


P.s same thing for 1.2 Patch ...
 
I thought i'd save you some time.

So i figured i'd save everyone some time.

Basicly. All the CD-KEYS are physically entered / generated on ea's server in a mysql database, these keys are the same keys that are given out via fileplanet. There is more than likely no way you will ever get a legit key, generated.

What exactly are you trying to crack? The key can be changed in regedit, by simply searching for it. It's under;

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/BCD00000000/SOFTWARE/Electronic Arts/EA Games/Red Alert 3 Beta/ergc

the default key will have the key listed under Data without the -'s in between.

If you install the beta with any of these keys;

8TDM-XTXA-9FYJ-3XTE-FH9R
JQBB-WLUX-H6V4-ZPRK-QVV2
PXGQ-3HQ4-6YLY-2LSN-CT82
WUU4-DTZ6-5VS8-2WCV-D9XB
F6XP-SVQK-E9LE-92D8-HPK8
GAPP-9SHC-ALTK-TQVV-DYGR

It works fine, however you will never get on EA Servers, ever in your life. so theres no point in wasting your time trying.

Crack the main menu with;
RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

then open up a lan game and play via lan or install a virtual lan, something like LogMeIn Hamachi works fine, its free, and supports 16 people, the premium one works for 30 days, and supports 64 people, that allows for a pretty decent ammont of people. I doubt you will get more than that on anyway.

If you get cdkey in use or cdkey conflict, while in the lan session or over the internet via hamachi. then its real easy, just go change a character in the registry under the location above. And it works fine, no more conflict.

You will never be able to clone an ea server or get on with anything besides a legitmate key, so don't even try. stop wasting your time people, the answers already above, and it works great, theres nothing further u can really do.

Goodluck.
 

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